1. #25381
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ritory-russia/

    The assassination campaign, while cheered by many Ukrainians, nonetheless raises legal and ethical questions about extrajudicial killings and potential war crimes, particularly when the targets are political actors or civilians and not combatants on the battlefield or other military personnel. And those questions cannot simply be waved away by pointing to the illegality of Russia’s invasion.

    - - - Updated - - -



    The civilians are occupiers of their own homes n land?
    We'll listen to some of what you say when you condemn any ruZZian war crimes. Any moment now... we're waiting.

  2. #25382
    Void Lord Elegiac's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Aelia Capitolina
    Posts
    59,753
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Failing to see where this article provides any evidence these killings are being done by the Ukrainian state, as you've been implying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  3. #25383
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Failing to see where this article provides any evidence these killings are being done by the Ukrainian state, as you've been implying.
    I fucking hope they're doing it. Good for 'em. It still isn't terrorism or war crimes.

  4. #25384
    Over 9000! zealo's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    9,565
    Russia having a partisan issue is a problem for them of their own making with what we know of their conduct towards civilians in occupied regions in this war.

  5. #25385
    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Russia having a partisan issue is a problem for them of their own making with what we know of their conduct towards civilians in occupied regions in this war.
    A bully never likes when they get hit back. Infact the bully is likely to cry victim when that happen, just like perpetual lil crybaby ruZZia.

  6. #25386
    Banned Ihavewaffles's Avatar
    5+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    The spice must flow!
    Posts
    6,631
    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    It is not their land, they are not "civilians", they are occupiers.

    And just as a reminder, this ruZZki still hasn't condemned any terrorist acts done by ruZZia while he keeps crying about supposed terror by Ukraine.
    So it was their land when they were Ukrainian citizens, but when those Crimea civilians became part of Russia, these former Ukrainian citizens are now occupying the land that was previously theirs? So they stole their own land is your point

    Lol, just LOL

  7. #25387
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    So it was their land when they were Ukrainian citizens, but when those Crimea civilians became part of Russia, these former Ukrainian citizens are now occupying the land that was previously theirs? So they stole their own land is your point

    Lol, just LOL
    You had an opportunity once more to condem ruZZian terror acts and war crimes. Yet again you fail to do so.

    All I need is one admission, then you will get talked to like an adult.
    Last edited by zorkuus; 2022-10-21 at 11:51 AM.

  8. #25388
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Wow, 30 seconds passed and that vote held at gunpoint really didn't seem to stick, huh?

    This feels like Putin's going to mobilize police to Ukraine, since he's comically out of troops and they are sworn to serve or fall out a window.
    Unironically the police might be the strongest troops Russia has right now since tyrants need strong homeland security to keep their citizens in check.

  9. #25389
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Uhm, bridges ARE civilian infrastructure, last I looked bridges are used by civilians, so targeting bridges is killing civilians, which did happen here, three people died.
    So Russia bombing all Ukrainian bridge and power plant is terrorism as well then ?

  10. #25390
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    So Russia bombing all Ukrainian bridge and power plant is terrorism as well then ?
    He has already gone down the rabbit hole of claiming that those were actually Ukraine doing it to themselves. You won't get an honest answer out of this snake.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Unironically the police might be the strongest troops Russia has right now since tyrants need strong homeland security to keep their citizens in check.
    Ironically the ruSSian police isn't even that strong (or rather strong in numbers) but the opposition is so comically small that it is easy to keep in control.

  11. #25391
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ritory-russia/

    The assassination campaign, while cheered by many Ukrainians, nonetheless raises legal and ethical questions about extrajudicial killings and potential war crimes, particularly when the targets are political actors or civilians and not combatants on the battlefield or other military personnel. And those questions cannot simply be waved away by pointing to the illegality of Russia’s invasion.

    - - - Updated - - -



    The civilians are occupiers of their own homes n land?
    Collaborators (Those who do it willingly and not under "duress") are basically traitors and strategical assets to be removed.

  12. #25392
    Banned Ihavewaffles's Avatar
    5+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    The spice must flow!
    Posts
    6,631
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Collaborators (Those who do it willingly and not under "duress") are basically traitors and strategical assets to be removed.
    So you support murdering civilians. Got it.

  13. #25393
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    So you support murdering civilians. Got it.
    When they betray their country and assist an invader which murders civilians ? Yes, as it should. You betray ? You have to pay the price for being scum.

    But I am not supporting it as much as you do as you support killing indiscriminately civilians which Russia is doing.

  14. #25394
    Banned Ihavewaffles's Avatar
    5+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    The spice must flow!
    Posts
    6,631
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    When they betray their country and assist an invader which murders civilians ? Yes, as it should. You betray ? You have to pay the price for being scum.
    So you want to murder civilians if they support another faction? While at the same time complaining about civilian lives

  15. #25395
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    So you want to murder civilians if they support another faction? While at the same time complaining about civilian lives
    You do not seem to grasp the nuance about all that ? I get it, it is not your fault, you were born like that.

    But they are not supporting "another faction", they are supporting a country invading their country on false pretense, while that country (Russia) is bombing civilian infrastructures on a daily basis while Ukraine is showing restrain (mostly due to US). I am not even putting the Russian war crimes in the mix yet.

  16. #25396
    Banned Ihavewaffles's Avatar
    5+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    The spice must flow!
    Posts
    6,631
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    You do not seem to grasp the nuance about all that ? I get it, it is not your fault, you were born like that.

    But they are not supporting "another faction", they are supporting a country invading their country on false pretense, while that country (Russia) is bombing civilian infrastructures on a daily basis while Ukraine is showing restrain (mostly due to US). I am not even putting the Russian war crimes in the mix yet.
    "we feel like, we have an excuse to murder civilians we feel are inconvenient to our cause"

  17. #25397
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    "we feel like, we have an excuse to murder civilians we feel are inconvenient to our cause"
    They are not inconvenient, they paint a target on their back the moment they betrayed willingly. Obviously, bystanders should not get hurt or killed if possible. But a full on traitor ? It is fair game.

    Still better than Russia killing civilians in hospitals or residential areas.

    Let me guess, Russia did not execute civilians in Bucha ?

  18. #25398
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    "we feel like, we have an excuse to murder civilians we feel are inconvenient to our cause"
    Nobody cares about your uneducated and ignorant opinions dude.

  19. #25399
    The Lightbringer Iphie's Avatar
    15+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Suomi/Nederland
    Posts
    3,309
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Unironically the police might be the strongest troops Russia has right now since tyrants need strong homeland security to keep their citizens in check.
    Technically that role has been taken over by the rosvergardya, putin's personal "army/guard", and that's also why at least a 1000 refused to go to Ukraine, citing that they were not allowed to go there as their mandate is to protect russia, NOT wage war in another country.

  20. #25400
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    "we feel like, we have an excuse to murder civilians we feel are inconvenient to our cause"
    Assassinations by partisans against collaborators is fine.

    Occupiers come in, kill/disappear/or dis empower civil servants like existing mayors and then install their own. The guy who was installed is a legitimate target. Sorry if this hurts your feelings.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •