Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Kaleredar]

Russia can't be trusted in any negotiations. Their word means nothing. Add this to the long list. Returning all Ukrainian land is non-negotiable. Russia should be only given ultimatums.

That's why any "official withdrawal" of Russia that Ukraine signs to on paper needs to immediately proceed to Ukraine entering some form of mutual-defense pact with the EU or NATO or some similar body that will forcibly remove Russia with the strength of dozens nations should the Russians ever attempt such a move again.

[Corvus]

And regular as clockwork, after Ukraine embarrassed russia at Sevastopol, they launched massive missile strikes on critical electrical and water infrastructure. No military targets, just more war crimes targeting civilians.

[Gabriel]

https://www.un.org/en/black-sea-grai...0-october-2022

Istanbul, 30 October 2022 - The United Nations Secretariat convened all delegations earlier today at the Joint Coordination Centre in a plenary format. During the session, the delegation of the Russian Federation informed that while it suspends its participation in the implementation of the activities of the Initiative, including in inspections, for an indefinite time, it will continue the dialogue with the United Nations and the Turkish delegation on pressing issues. The Russian Federation delegation also expressed its readiness to cooperate remotely on issues that require immediate decision by the JCC.

The Secretariat, in close cooperation with the Turkish delegation at the JCC, continues to engage all representatives to offer options on next steps regarding the JCC operations in accordance with the goals and provisions stated in the Initiative.

In order to continue fulfilling the Initiative, it was proposed that the Turkish and United Nations delegations provide tomorrow 10 inspection teams aiming to inspect 40 outbound vessels. This inspection plan has been accepted by the delegation of Ukraine. The Russian Federation delegation has been informed.

Currently, there are 97 loaded vessels and 15 inbound vessels registered for JCC inspection around Istanbul. There are an additional 89 that have applied to join the Initiative.

In addition, the Ukrainian, Turkish and United Nations delegations agreed on a movement plan for tomorrow 31 October for the maritime humanitarian corridor of 16 vessels, 12 outbound and 4 inbound. The UN delegation, in its capacity as JCC Secretariat, has informed the delegation of the Russian Federation on the movements in accordance with the JCC established procedures. As per JCC procedures, all participants coordinate with their respective military and other relevant authorities to ensure the safe passage of commercial vessels under the Black Sea Grain Initiative.

There was no movement of vessels in the corridor today, 30 October. There are currently 21 vessels engaged in the Initiative that are in or near the three Ukrainian ports with a capacity of over 700,000 metric tons, including IKARIA ANGEL, a vessel chartered by the World Food Programme loaded with 30,000 metric tons of wheat for the emergency response in the Horn of Africa.

Go ahead russia, attack a UN protected grain ship. I dare you.

[Iphie]

Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

You can't make this up.

[Edge-]

Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

You can't make this up.

Russia can't protect its own navy?

That's...uh...embarrassing. They're trying to place the onus on Ukraine when like...they could always stop invading and withdraw from all Ukrainian territory with their tail between their legs.

[Makabreska]

Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

You can't make this up.

Coincidently, just when Ukraine did a drone strike on Russian fleet parked at Sevastopol and made it almost impossible for them to obstruct grain transport any more.

[Saradain]

Did anyone find news about Kremlin claiming that Gazprom somehow got to inspect the Nord Stream damages? Obviously RuZZia claims to have proof that UK did it, but they for some reason do not wish to present them!

Adding up a translation from finnish articles - RuZZia claims that Liz Truss sent a message to Anthony Blinken - "Job's done" a minute after Nord Stream went kaputt...

[zealo]

Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

You can't make this up.

Funny guys, they have a bright career ahead of them in comedy after this ends.

Just for the heck of it to call their crap, Ukraine ought to offer Russia to intern both the entirety of the Russian black sea fleet and their crews in Turkish custody so long as the war is ongoing, and see what they think about that.

[Dontrike]

Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

You can't make this up.

Went from "We'll destroy them in 3 days" to "Please don't attack us"

[Elenos]

And regular as clockwork, after Ukraine embarrassed russia at Sevastopol, they launched massive missile strikes on critical electrical and water infrastructure. No military targets, just more war crimes targeting civilians.

I'll give you a read on what Russia is doing and why as of late.

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/uk...2-7c2460746a7a

Russia is looking to basically leave Ukraine without any power, water or heat. This will severely impact Ukraine's military capabilities too and cause a lot of chaos and suffering in Ukraine.

[Veggie50]

I'll give you a read on what Russia is doing and why as of late.

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/uk...2-7c2460746a7a

Russia is looking to basically leave Ukraine without any power, water or heat. This will severely impact Ukraine's military capabilities too and cause a lot of chaos and suffering in Ukraine.

Well… as long as they stick to the “leave ukraine” part.

[Kaleredar]

I'll give you a read on what Russia is doing and why as of late.

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/uk...2-7c2460746a7a

Russia is looking to basically leave Ukraine without any power, water or heat. This will severely impact Ukraine's military capabilities too and cause a lot of chaos and suffering in Ukraine.

Seeing as Russia is unable to supply their own troops, I'd imagine they'd have to otherwise rely a great deal on the Ukrainian infrastructure they're currently destroying to attempt to tide them over, especially come winter.

And it's not like the influx of western weapons to aim at Russia is going to slow down. I'd imagine the powers that be helping Ukraine out would be more than happy to ensure the resources required to keep such weaponry functioning.


Russia poorly thinking out a tactical decision in this frivolous war they started? Who'da thought.

[Elenos]

@Kaleredar Except wherein they are destroying the infrastructure in the North and West far away from the frontlines.

As for the influx of weapons, I believe you'll be surprised but there are actual limits to how much we can supply to Ukraine. The West overall had a severe ammunition issue before the war started and we gave Ukraine a lot. The Drones and Javelins for instance that had such an impact early on in the war? There's no missile replacements for them that will be available easily.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...ins-stockpiles

[Corvus]

russia has backed down on its threat to pull out of the grain agreement. Bluff called.

[Iphie]

russia has backed down on its threat to pull out of the grain agreement. Bluff called.

Just about to post this, I wonder though if this doesn't make russia look weak? Not that I care but I'm just wondering how quickly they caved.

[Lathspell]

Just about to post this, I wonder though if this doesn't make russia look weak? Not that I care but I'm just wondering how quickly they caved.

The entire war has made them look weak. This is another blow to their already shattered image.

[Iphie]

The entire war has made them look weak. This is another blow to their already shattered image.

Point taken, I should probably have said: "even weaker".


Bale of salt due to the source, but this is kinda interesting if true:

https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status...33785259671553

[Gorsameth]

Point taken, I should probably have said: "even weaker".

I don't think their international image can get much weaker. The only thing that matters to them right now is domestic image and that news is full on propaganda anyway.

[The Stormbringer]

@Kaleredar Except wherein they are destroying the infrastructure in the North and West far away from the frontlines.

As for the influx of weapons, I believe you'll be surprised but there are actual limits to how much we can supply to Ukraine. The West overall had a severe ammunition issue before the war started and we gave Ukraine a lot. The Drones and Javelins for instance that had such an impact early on in the war? There's no missile replacements for them that will be available easily.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...ins-stockpiles

Lmao. Severe ammunition issue. My brother in Christ, if we need more ammunition, we can easily make it. "Low" ammunition for the US does not mean the same thing it means for other countries. For us, it means that our excess stockpiles aren't quite as excessive as usual, but are still enough for us to fight a god damn war. 'Low' just means we wouldn't be able to fight a war and then still have enough left over to fight another war. But don't worry, that's something that we can very easily fix by ramping up production.

[Kallisto]

Just about to post this, I wonder though if this doesn't make russia look weak? Not that I care but I'm just wondering how quickly they caved.

They're saying Ukraine backed down. Remember it doesn't matter how Russia looks to us, Turkey, most of the world. All of this is for domestic consumption saying "Ukraine backed down." is a nice little spin so they can claim a win.