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    Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

    You can't make this up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

    You can't make this up.
    Russia can't protect its own navy?

    That's...uh...embarrassing. They're trying to place the onus on Ukraine when like...they could always stop invading and withdraw from all Ukrainian territory with their tail between their legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

    You can't make this up.
    Coincidently, just when Ukraine did a drone strike on Russian fleet parked at Sevastopol and made it almost impossible for them to obstruct grain transport any more.
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    Did anyone find news about Kremlin claiming that Gazprom somehow got to inspect the Nord Stream damages? Obviously RuZZia claims to have proof that UK did it, but they for some reason do not wish to present them!

    Adding up a translation from finnish articles - RuZZia claims that Liz Truss sent a message to Anthony Blinken - "Job's done" a minute after Nord Stream went kaputt...
    Last edited by Saradain; 2022-11-01 at 05:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

    You can't make this up.
    Funny guys, they have a bright career ahead of them in comedy after this ends.

    Just for the heck of it to call their crap, Ukraine ought to offer Russia to intern both the entirety of the Russian black sea fleet and their crews in Turkish custody so long as the war is ongoing, and see what they think about that.
    Last edited by zealo; 2022-11-01 at 08:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Apparently russia will return to the grain deal IF Ukraine guarantees the safety of the russian Black sea fleet...

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...12820181893123

    You can't make this up.
    Went from "We'll destroy them in 3 days" to "Please don't attack us"
    Last edited by Dontrike; 2022-11-02 at 01:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    And regular as clockwork, after Ukraine embarrassed russia at Sevastopol, they launched massive missile strikes on critical electrical and water infrastructure. No military targets, just more war crimes targeting civilians.
    I'll give you a read on what Russia is doing and why as of late.

    https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/uk...2-7c2460746a7a

    Russia is looking to basically leave Ukraine without any power, water or heat. This will severely impact Ukraine's military capabilities too and cause a lot of chaos and suffering in Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    I'll give you a read on what Russia is doing and why as of late.

    https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/uk...2-7c2460746a7a

    Russia is looking to basically leave Ukraine without any power, water or heat. This will severely impact Ukraine's military capabilities too and cause a lot of chaos and suffering in Ukraine.
    Well… as long as they stick to the “leave ukraine” part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    I'll give you a read on what Russia is doing and why as of late.

    https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/uk...2-7c2460746a7a

    Russia is looking to basically leave Ukraine without any power, water or heat. This will severely impact Ukraine's military capabilities too and cause a lot of chaos and suffering in Ukraine.
    Seeing as Russia is unable to supply their own troops, I'd imagine they'd have to otherwise rely a great deal on the Ukrainian infrastructure they're currently destroying to attempt to tide them over, especially come winter.

    And it's not like the influx of western weapons to aim at Russia is going to slow down. I'd imagine the powers that be helping Ukraine out would be more than happy to ensure the resources required to keep such weaponry functioning.


    Russia poorly thinking out a tactical decision in this frivolous war they started? Who'da thought.
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    @Kaleredar Except wherein they are destroying the infrastructure in the North and West far away from the frontlines.

    As for the influx of weapons, I believe you'll be surprised but there are actual limits to how much we can supply to Ukraine. The West overall had a severe ammunition issue before the war started and we gave Ukraine a lot. The Drones and Javelins for instance that had such an impact early on in the war? There's no missile replacements for them that will be available easily.

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    russia has backed down on its threat to pull out of the grain agreement. Bluff called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    russia has backed down on its threat to pull out of the grain agreement. Bluff called.
    Just about to post this, I wonder though if this doesn't make russia look weak? Not that I care but I'm just wondering how quickly they caved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Just about to post this, I wonder though if this doesn't make russia look weak? Not that I care but I'm just wondering how quickly they caved.
    The entire war has made them look weak. This is another blow to their already shattered image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathspell View Post
    The entire war has made them look weak. This is another blow to their already shattered image.
    Point taken, I should probably have said: "even weaker".


    Bale of salt due to the source, but this is kinda interesting if true:

    https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status...33785259671553
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-11-02 at 01:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Point taken, I should probably have said: "even weaker".
    I don't think their international image can get much weaker. The only thing that matters to them right now is domestic image and that news is full on propaganda anyway.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    @Kaleredar Except wherein they are destroying the infrastructure in the North and West far away from the frontlines.

    As for the influx of weapons, I believe you'll be surprised but there are actual limits to how much we can supply to Ukraine. The West overall had a severe ammunition issue before the war started and we gave Ukraine a lot. The Drones and Javelins for instance that had such an impact early on in the war? There's no missile replacements for them that will be available easily.

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...ins-stockpiles
    Lmao. Severe ammunition issue. My brother in Christ, if we need more ammunition, we can easily make it. "Low" ammunition for the US does not mean the same thing it means for other countries. For us, it means that our excess stockpiles aren't quite as excessive as usual, but are still enough for us to fight a god damn war. 'Low' just means we wouldn't be able to fight a war and then still have enough left over to fight another war. But don't worry, that's something that we can very easily fix by ramping up production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Just about to post this, I wonder though if this doesn't make russia look weak? Not that I care but I'm just wondering how quickly they caved.
    They're saying Ukraine backed down. Remember it doesn't matter how Russia looks to us, Turkey, most of the world. All of this is for domestic consumption saying "Ukraine backed down." is a nice little spin so they can claim a win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    russia has backed down on its threat to pull out of the grain agreement. Bluff called.
    The problem is, given Russia's history, not even this can be trusted.

    Can see them waiting to see grain ships leaving just to intentionally destroy them while making sure to kill any survivors. These are the same people who agreed to let civilians leave an area only to directly attack them while they are leaving. Their word is worth less than my used toilet paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    The problem is, given Russia's history, not even this can be trusted.

    Can see them waiting to see grain ships leaving just to intentionally destroy them while making sure to kill any survivors. These are the same people who agreed to let civilians leave an area only to directly attack them while they are leaving. Their word is worth less than my used toilet paper.
    I'm sure Ukraine would love to give some more Russian ships a submarine conversion free of charge.

    I'm not convinced Russia is even in a position to stop the grain shipments if they wanted to.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I'm sure Ukraine would love to give some more Russian ships a submarine conversion free of charge.

    I'm not convinced Russia is even in a position to stop the grain shipments if they wanted to.


    You know, you might be on to something...

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