Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Specialka]

So what point were you trying to make then?

War is ugly and people die, don't be naive people celebrate enemy losses especially when its the instigator.

When did I say I was naive about that ? If I interjected, that is precisely because of that. Celebrating an enemy death, especially by someone who is not even on the battlefield is a low bar for humanity.

[Corvus]

Here is another one for our 'mah both sides' to feel sorry for - a letter from a member of russia's 155th Marine Brigade complains that senior officers sent them to attack Ukrainians on the high ground simply to earn rewards, and that over 4 days they lost half their vehicles and 300 KIA/WIA/MIA. These weren't mobiks either.

More info on that attack where russian forces got decimated.

[Gabriel]

When did I say I was naive about that ? If I interjected, that is precisely because of that. Celebrating an enemy death, especially by someone who is not even on the battlefield is a low bar for humanity.

Get off your high horse.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Bold word coming from behind your computer, armchair warrior.

I signed and served a long time ago. You're still wrong, and your moral parading is hilariously ignorant. Step down, keyboard warrior.

[Iliena]

When did I say I was naive about that ? If I interjected, that is precisely because of that. Celebrating an enemy death, especially by someone who is not even on the battlefield is a low bar for humanity.

No it isn't and I will point out your also not of the battlefield so why is your point anymore valid?

You don't appear to have (or care) about the implications to what would happen if Putin is allowed to achieve his goals, Putin invading was a low point for humanity, the support the west has given Ukraine is a high point.

Russian soldiers are the tools being used to attempt to invade a neighbouring nation for bullshit reasons to remove the "Nazi's!", when it is quite clearly empire building and attempting to get back to the glory days of the USSR! after all he has stated Ukraine is Russian property on TV, so nobody is crying for Putin's tools being destroyed and broken, every one dead is one closer to getting them out.

[Specialka]

No it isn't and I will point out your also not of the battlefield so why is your point anymore valid?

You don't appear to have (or care) about the implications to what would happen if Putin is allowed to achieve his goals, Putin invading was a low point for humanity, the support the west has given Ukraine is a high point.

Russian soldiers are the tools being used to attempt to invade a neighbouring nation for bullshit reasons to remove the "Nazi's!", when it is quite clearly empire building and attempting to get back to the glory days of the USSR! after all he has stated Ukraine is Russian property on TV, so nobody is crying for Putin's tools being destroyed and broken, every one dead is one closer to getting them out.

He does not want to go back to the USSR, but rather the Russian Empire as it existed well before the USSR. Just so you know (and how much you do not know anything about that conflict).

[YUPPIE]

As Kyiv braces for a winter with allegedly no power, heat, or conventional water, could this be where Russia launches its most devastating counter attack to turn the tide?

[Specialka]

As Kyiv braces for a winter with allegedly no power, heat, or conventional water, could this be where Russia launches its most devastating counter attack to turn the tide?

They have no means to do so. Their best soldiers are around Kherson and they are surrounded and are on the retreat.

[Iliena]

He does not want to go back to the USSR, but rather the Russian Empire as it existed well before the USSR. Just so you know (and how much you do not know anything about that conflict).

Seeing I know nothing how about you educate me then?

(Preferably with information and links from legitimate sources)

[Cthulhu 2020]

He does not want to go back to the USSR, but rather the Russian Empire as it existed well before the USSR. Just so you know (and how much you do not know anything about that conflict).

This isn't a rebuttal to anything the person said other than pointing out that Putin is even more delusional than most people think. Russia continues to chase past glories over and over, committing atrocities in the name of said glories.

[Specialka]

Seeing I know nothing how about you educate me then?

(Preferably with information and links from legitimate sources)

I invite you to listen to Alain Bauer, but the content will be in french.

[Iliena]

I invite you to listen to Alain Bauer, but the content will be in french.

I asked for links.

[Endus]

I guess you would be as servile if you were raised in such a system. Russians has never know democracy or freedom of speech or all those things we get to have in the "West".

Russia has literally been a democracy since 1993. Why would you lie about basic facts like this?

[Specialka]

Russia has literally been a democracy since 1993. Why would you lie about basic facts like this?

Hey, they also have elections in North Korea, they definitively are a democracy !

[Iphie]

Russia has literally been a democracy since 1993. Why would you lie about basic facts like this?

Maybe between 1993 and 1999, but you can't honestly claim that russia has been a functional democracy in the last 20 years, come now.

[Specialka]

Maybe between 1993 and 1999, but you can't honestly claim that russia has been a functional democracy in the last 20 years, come now.

And even during those time, Elstine was a known drunkard. And russians lost a lot of things due to USSR collapse. There was a lot of nostalgia.

[Iliena]

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Still waiting for link's for Alain Bauer in regard to Russia and Ukraine. If you don't provide any I will just assume you are full of shit.

[Specialka]

Still waiting for link's for Alain Bauer in regard to Russia and Ukraine. If you don't provide any I will just assume you are full of shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOP16Wgixt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gej1d4hhp1c

[Iliena]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOP16Wgixt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gej1d4hhp1c

OK I've watched both. I'm not sure what you got from those vid that is that much different to what I already know and has been reported by reputable English speaking press.

So I guess I know more than you think! and I learned nothing to change my views on getting the Russians out of Ukraine!

[Jastall]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOP16Wgixt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gej1d4hhp1c

I mean none of this is groundbreaking analysis. I see similar takes on my provincial TV news fairly frequently. And the distinctions between the USSR and Russian Empire aren't that considerable in the first place, one merely exerted quite a bit of influence on its neighbors while the other controlled them directly on paper, but in practice still left them a decent amount of autonomy on internal matters. Putin knows he likely can't just completely absorb everything east of Germany no matter how hard he tries so he goes for the next best thing of making the region Russia's sphere of influence there. Just not very well.

Bauer being fairly well known for being a smug know-it-all doesn't help matters, as well.