Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Lathspell]

they, or more specifically putin, explicitly said they'll never surrender so we can rule that out

So they will then be attacked ruthlessly and brutally. Their choice. Even individual soldiers can choose to just surrender and help Ukraine fight Putin. I have zero sympathy for those who don't.

[zealo]

ukraine has just ruled out any possible talks for a ceasefire after kherson

This isn't exactly news, it was already known Ukraine doesn't want to enter into any ceasefire the Russians just views as a chance to dig in and consolidate before beginning anew.

[YUPPIE]

So they will then be attacked ruthlessly and brutally. Their choice. Even individual soldiers can choose to just surrender and help Ukraine fight Putin. I have zero sympathy for those who don't.

I believe Putin has set up firmer execution squads for soldiers displaying anything short of unwavering faith, said squads being led by the most evil psychopaths to further deter mutiny. So, still not much pity?

[Iphie]

I believe Putin has set up firmer execution squads for soldiers displaying anything short of unwavering faith, said squads being led by the most evil psychopaths to further deter mutiny. So, still not much pity?

Eh, those who want to surrender but can't, for whatever reason, deserve a bit of pity (provided they haven't committed any crimes), but in general not much pity left for the russian soldiers still fighting.

[Voidism]

Don't discount proper training.

I guess I'll have to donate directly to United24. Well, donate more.

[Gabriel]

I believe Putin has set up firmer execution squads for soldiers displaying anything short of unwavering faith, said squads being led by the most evil psychopaths to further deter mutiny. So, still not much pity?

Neither God nor man has been able to create a bulletproof psychopath.

[Veggie50]

they dont really take prisoners anymore past unwavering surrender. If a Russian is dismembered and squealing from a missile strike, he'll just be bombed again. I don't think the Russians are seen as human anymore warranting pity or mercy in the eyes of the Ukrainians.

Where are you getting this? They are very much still taking prisoners. Himars clips just score better on tiktok, so thats what you get to see.

[Gorsameth]

Where are you getting this? They are very much still taking prisoners. Himars clips just score better on tiktok, so thats what you get to see.

Your talking to yuppie, reality does not apply.

[MCMLXXXII]

He's getting more deranged, anytime he'll get banned.

[qwerty123456]

Not enough people have mentioned the n word since his last ban so he hasn't been able to nut.

[YUPPIE]

Where are you getting this? They are very much still taking prisoners. Himars clips just score better on tiktok, so thats what you get to see.

you more or less summed it up. They will take prisoners if they can on-foot, but have no qualms about goring Russians indiscriminately in missile strikes.

[ghotihook]

you more or less summed it up. They will take prisoners if they can on-foot, but have no qualms about goring Russians indiscriminately in missile strikes.

wtf are you talking about, you mean attacking combatants with missile strikes? You realize this is war right? What you said is literally war.

[Iphie]

you more or less summed it up. They will take prisoners if they can on-foot, but have no qualms about goring Russians indiscriminately in missile strikes.

And why, pray tell, should the Ukrainians care where their missiles land as long as they land on the heads of some hapless russian soldiers? It's not as if they are targeting russian schools or hospitals.

(disclaimer, I don't like indiscriminate killing, but there's a really easy solution for it: have the russians bugger off from Ukrainian soil. Until then, war is war and if you're a soldier you're a target.)

[YUPPIE]

Not enough people have mentioned the n word

After Xi more or less told Putin to shut the fuck up with nukes and Putin not using a nuke after warning the newly annexed Russian territories are under nuclear jurisdiction - up to Kherson - it's more or less probably neutered the credibility for his threats.

It's also made Putin look like a giant coward in how he just let Xi walk over him without saying anything back.

I reckon this is why people have not really been paying mind to any nuclear talk for a while now.

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On other notable news oddly not brought up, it seems one of Russia's biggest warhawks - Lavrov - has been hospitalized and is in critical condition now.

[Iphie]

On other notable news oddly not brought up, it seems one of Russia's biggest warhawks - Lavrov - has been hospitalized and is in critical condition now.

So critical that he dismissed it himself:

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...al-2022-11-14/

[Vakna]

they, or more specifically putin, explicitly said they'll never surrender so we can rule that out

They every member if the Russian military is doomed to die, because the West will never abandon Ukraine.

[zealo]

So critical that he dismissed it himself:

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...al-2022-11-14/

And besides, Lavrov happening to have health issues as he arrives at G20 doesn't have a whole lot to do with this thread anyway.

[YUPPIE]

because the West will never abandon Ukraine.

I don't think that's true if you've seen the Republican ads on TV slandering/slamming Biden for giving money to Ukraine.

Whatever else you think of the GOP, it seems most right-wing ideologies and factions in the West are in league with Putin.

[ghotihook]

I don't think that's true if you've seen the Republican ads on TV slandering/slamming Biden for giving money to Ukraine.

Whatever else you think of the GOP, it seems most right-wing ideologies and factions in the West are in league with Putin.

A few, mostly the aid to Ukraine has been bipartisan.

[Corvus]

I'm scratching my head at this one as it doesn't seem likely, but there is a lot of chatter that after taking Kherson, Ukrainian troops have crossed the Dnieper and ate liberating settlements there.

It could just be a SOF raid designed to keep pressure up and they found russian forces had pulled back further than first thought.