1. #26001
    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    Where are you getting this? They are very much still taking prisoners. Himars clips just score better on tiktok, so thats what you get to see.
    you more or less summed it up. They will take prisoners if they can on-foot, but have no qualms about goring Russians indiscriminately in missile strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    you more or less summed it up. They will take prisoners if they can on-foot, but have no qualms about goring Russians indiscriminately in missile strikes.
    wtf are you talking about, you mean attacking combatants with missile strikes? You realize this is war right? What you said is literally war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    you more or less summed it up. They will take prisoners if they can on-foot, but have no qualms about goring Russians indiscriminately in missile strikes.
    And why, pray tell, should the Ukrainians care where their missiles land as long as they land on the heads of some hapless russian soldiers? It's not as if they are targeting russian schools or hospitals.

    (disclaimer, I don't like indiscriminate killing, but there's a really easy solution for it: have the russians bugger off from Ukrainian soil. Until then, war is war and if you're a soldier you're a target.)

  4. #26004
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Not enough people have mentioned the n word
    After Xi more or less told Putin to shut the fuck up with nukes and Putin not using a nuke after warning the newly annexed Russian territories are under nuclear jurisdiction - up to Kherson - it's more or less probably neutered the credibility for his threats.

    It's also made Putin look like a giant coward in how he just let Xi walk over him without saying anything back.

    I reckon this is why people have not really been paying mind to any nuclear talk for a while now.

    - - - Updated - - -

    On other notable news oddly not brought up, it seems one of Russia's biggest warhawks - Lavrov - has been hospitalized and is in critical condition now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post

    On other notable news oddly not brought up, it seems one of Russia's biggest warhawks - Lavrov - has been hospitalized and is in critical condition now.
    So critical that he dismissed it himself:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...al-2022-11-14/

  6. #26006
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    they, or more specifically putin, explicitly said they'll never surrender so we can rule that out
    They every member if the Russian military is doomed to die, because the West will never abandon Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    So critical that he dismissed it himself:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...al-2022-11-14/
    And besides, Lavrov happening to have health issues as he arrives at G20 doesn't have a whole lot to do with this thread anyway.
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  8. #26008
    Quote Originally Posted by Vakna View Post
    because the West will never abandon Ukraine.
    I don't think that's true if you've seen the Republican ads on TV slandering/slamming Biden for giving money to Ukraine.

    Whatever else you think of the GOP, it seems most right-wing ideologies and factions in the West are in league with Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I don't think that's true if you've seen the Republican ads on TV slandering/slamming Biden for giving money to Ukraine.

    Whatever else you think of the GOP, it seems most right-wing ideologies and factions in the West are in league with Putin.
    A few, mostly the aid to Ukraine has been bipartisan.

  10. #26010
    I'm scratching my head at this one as it doesn't seem likely, but there is a lot of chatter that after taking Kherson, Ukrainian troops have crossed the Dnieper and ate liberating settlements there.

    It could just be a SOF raid designed to keep pressure up and they found russian forces had pulled back further than first thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    I'm scratching my head at this one as it doesn't seem likely, but there is a lot of chatter that after taking Kherson, Ukrainian troops have crossed the Dnieper and ate liberating settlements there.

    It could just be a SOF raid designed to keep pressure up and they found russian forces had pulled back further than first thought.
    I've seen chatter about the peninsula below Mykolaiv, which has me scratching my head as well.

    I mean if Ukrainians are liberating across the Dnieper then they are also going to be behind the prepared lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    I'm scratching my head at this one as it doesn't seem likely, but there is a lot of chatter that after taking Kherson, Ukrainian troops have crossed the Dnieper and ate liberating settlements there.

    It could just be a SOF raid designed to keep pressure up and they found russian forces had pulled back further than first thought.
    not seen anything about this, next logical step is taking Melitopol'

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    As Denys says: maybe not 100% certain, but something seems to be going on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    As Denys says: maybe not 100% certain, but something seems to be going on.

    yea not sure about that at all, crossing from ochakiv with your only supply line being ribs seems like a stupid thing to do, and crossing the river into 2 lines of defense seems also bad.

    again Melitopol' is the logical next target to separate the russians into 2 sectors and cut the supply lines in kherson/crimea.

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    Yeah, I mean I'm not disagreeing with you that Melitopol would be more logical but then you do risk ending up between two russian armies, furthermore the psychological effect of a breakthrough at Kherson this quick should not be underestimated.

    We'll find out in the coming days.

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    It could be the russians got chewed up in Kherson worse than thought, and with their supplies issues on top of that, pulled back further than thought. Or it could be the Ukrainians launching raids against unprepared russian positions, not allowing time for them to dig in.

    Right now nobody is sure and the Ukrainians won't say until after it is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghotihook View Post
    A few
    yeah but those few, like Trump and Orban, are some of the most influential and important people in the world - a great threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    You are free to have no value nor morals and I am free to say I do not agree with that.
    defends nazis.... claims moral high ground.... shit just doesn't get better on mmo lmfao....
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  19. #26019
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    yeah but those few, like Trump and Orban, are some of the most influential and important people in the world - a great threat.
    Bwahahaha. No. Orban is barely relevant in Europe, let alone in the rest of the world. And Trump? Yeah, he is gone. The republicans are turning on him.

  20. #26020
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Bwahahaha. No. Orban is barely relevant in Europe, let alone in the rest of the world. And Trump? Yeah, he is gone. The republicans are turning on him.
    While Orban is barely relevant he unfortunately still holds a veto in both NATO membership for Sweden and Finland and also basically everything major for EU things.

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