1. #26041
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Enwmy of my enemy. They're only together because they both oppose the west.
    China wants to oppose the West but they don't want war.

    War is bad for the economy which is bad for China.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  2. #26042
    The Ukrainians are reporting that the russians have retreated 15-20km behind the Dneiper, just to get out of Ukrainian artillery range (well, except for HIMARs and other rounds they have that can hit that far.) They are giving up the best defensive position they could have just so they don't get shot at. They must have been in worse shape than first thought.

    It goes both ways as well - if the Ukrainians cant hit them, they can't hit the Ukrainians and can't prevent them getting across.
    Last edited by Corvus; 2022-11-15 at 12:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The Ukrainians are reporting that the russians have retreated 15-20km behind the Dneiper, just to get out of Ukrainian artillery range (well, except for HIMARs and other rounds they have that can hit that far.) They are giving up the best defensive position they could have just so they don't get shot at. They must have been in worse shape than first thought.

    It goes both ways as well - if the Ukrainians cant hit them, they can't hit the Ukrainians and can't prevent them getting across.
    Oof...so those reports of Ukrainians crossing the Dnieper aren't totally far fetched?

  4. #26044
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    And the guy in the trench is responsible about that ?
    Your logic has holes in it that are bigger than the grand canyon. By your logic nobody is allowed to shoot any soldier until they do something bad.

    That is nonsense. Your poor victims are in a sovereign nation waging war against that country. By definition that country has the right to defend itself with lethal force.

    End of story. There is nothing further to discuss. Stop whining about the poor fate of an invading army because the defending country has the audacity to defend itself.

    Wtf is wrong with you

    The fix is not to ask for Ukraine to show mercy and stop killing them. The fix is for Russia to gtfo of Ukraine.
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  5. #26045
    Aaand Russia being Russia, "avenging" military actions by Ukraine, by murdering civilians. And some posters here call Ukraine terrorists

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

    Massive missile attack! Missiles have entered our airspace.

    Today Russians will try to repeat the 10th of October. Air raid alert all over Ukraine, except Crimea.

  6. #26046
    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Aaand Russia being Russia, "avenging" military actions by Ukraine, by murdering civilians. And some posters here call Ukraine terrorists

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
    it's a follow-up to when Putin said the last time "that wasn't even close to the worst we could have done" on Oct 31st.
    "Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Aaand Russia being Russia, "avenging" military actions by Ukraine, by murdering civilians. And some posters here call Ukraine terrorists

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
    Seems AA has worked to an extent though.

  8. #26048
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    it's a follow-up to when Putin said the last time "that wasn't even close to the worst we could have done" on Oct 31st.
    Which wasn't news at all, Russia was always going to genocide civilians. Anything that could change that would be more deadly weapons, resulting in same thing - civilians targeted and killed.

    Putin has nothing new left to threaten with. In fact, even killing a single more civilian would be the same thing as "not the worst we could do"...Because after killing 1000 civilians, 1 more is worse, but nothing new or meaningful tactics-wise.

  9. #26049
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    it's a follow-up to when Putin said the last time "that wasn't even close to the worst we could have done" on Oct 31st.
    Only damage reported is 2 residential buildings so this wasn't even close to the damage of the last temper tantrum.

  10. #26050
    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Which wasn't news at all, Russia was always going to genocide civilians. Anything that could change that would be more deadly weapons, resulting in same thing - civilians targeted and killed.

    Putin has nothing new left to threaten with. In fact, even killing a single more civilian would be the same thing as "not the worst we could do"...Because after killing 1000 civilians, 1 more is worse, but nothing new or meaningful tactics-wise.
    guy genocides civilians and casually lets you know it's his thing and is still alive, no attempts made at assassinating him, politicians still bartering with him forgas/grain. He knows he's untouchable so it enables him to do this stuff.
    "Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."

  11. #26051
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    guy genocides civilians and casually lets you know it's his thing and is still alive, no attempts made at assassinating him, politicians still bartering with him forgas/grain. He knows he's untouchable so it enables him to do this stuff.
    As always, you are fanboying Putin. Imagining that he is second to a god.

    Meanwhile in reality, he is going towards a dead end. Maybe come back to this thread in a year at earliest, and then see how things actually developed, instead of thinking that this war actually lasts 3 days at most...?

    Ukraine will probs be fighting the entire next year, and Neo-USSR is going to buckle and fall piece by piece. Yes, more civilians will die in Ukraine because that's how terrorist states operate, but the same time the ultimate price becomes far higher for Nazi Russia.

  12. #26052
    in an update: russia is currently going all-out with missile strikes all over ukraine, like everywhere

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63638859
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    in an update: russia is currently going all-out with missile strikes all over ukraine, like everywhere

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63638859
    They still have rockets? I guess this is their final attack as they cant have any more stock left.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

  14. #26054
    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    They still have rockets? I guess this is their final attack as they cant have any more stock left.
    north korea and iran will keep giving them rockets so no, this is not it
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    north korea and iran will keep giving them rockets so no, this is not it
    Perhaps, but NK quality is shite and Iran claims not to be interested in supplying rockets, drones yes, rockets, no.

    In any case "native" russian rockets are running out.

  16. #26056
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Perhaps, but NK quality is shite and Iran claims not to be interested in supplying rockets, drones yes, rockets, no.

    In any case "native" russian rockets are running out.
    rockets are still rockets; they kill people regardless of what they are, and putin only has interest killing civilians

    also, hypothetically, you don't want russia to run out of rockets - or they might resort to other things
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  18. #26058
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Russia is fucked. It was an accident for sure, but now non-participant civilians have been attacked by Nazi Russia.

    Time to browse the polish NATO article 5 memes! (I know its probably not gonna trigger the said article, but Russia ain't gonna get away with this so easily!)

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    Time for a no fly zone

  20. #26060
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Time to fuck russia in the ass.

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