Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Combatbutler]

That statement is false.

Is it? How so? Things could be so much better, but they aren't because the political will is not existent, on one part of the globe atrocities are shouted out about loud and clear, if it affects those around them, in other parts they are ignored if they are inconvenient, or well pragmatic. If you honestly want to enforce a truly moral system on the globe, you need to utterly break the status quo, because currently the globe runs on fucking suffering.

[Saradain]

Zelensky is still claiming it's Russians though. https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/872588.html

Then he's gonna be in denial, always sucks that your righteous cause to defend your populace from annihilation can result in an accident like this. Other than that, two rockets were found, so one of them could as well be russian - the one being deflected.

But that raises a question from me, how do two rockets end up in entirely same location? And the media seems to keep the story about two intact rockets, while sometimes stating it's a single rocket, with remains of another that came with it, not an entire 2nd rocket.

[Poopymonster]

Ticket offer to Donbass is still valid. Now that you said that, it's never been as valid as now. Take it komrade.

Set up a Gofundme. I'm in.

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The most ruined nut of 2022.

His NoNutNovember is in tatters if someone breaks NoNukeNovember.

[Strawberry]

Zelensky is still claiming it's Russians though. https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/872588.html

Of course he is, once a clown, always a clown.

[Collegeguy]

Zelensky is still claiming it's Russians though. https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/872588.html

Russia has lots of saboteurs in Ukraine. Would it really be difficult for Russia to accomplish this?
Everyone knows that the US has satellites watching Ukraine at all times and would figure out the trajectory.
Ask yourself who benefits from gaslighting this strike and framing Ukraine, and who has a proven track record of gaslighting.

While we are at it, Britain blew up Nord Stream, and there are Nazis running Ukraine that we need to genocide.

[jonnysensible]

Russia has lots of saboteurs in Ukraine. Would it really be difficult for Russia to accomplish this?

no need to conjure conspiracy theories. Its always the most likely thing that happens....that happens. 100+ Missiles flew in targeting Ukraine, a stray AA missile went rogue and slapped some poor cunts in poland. Thats probably what happened. Not great but more shit is likely to happen as the war goes on. Most wars spill over the borders.

[YUPPIE]

the fact zelenksy still insists the missile was russian has led to consider the prospect Russia did in fact do it, accidentally or not, and NATO and its allies simply made an excuse to not directly confront Russia.

[Iliena]

the fact zelenksy still insists the missile was russian has led to consider the prospect Russia did in fact do it, accidentally or not, and NATO and its allies simply made an excuse to not directly confront Russia.

You always manage to find a conspiracy! Your head must hurt with all the mental gymnastics.

[YUPPIE]

You always manage to find a conspiracy! Your head must hurt with all the mental gymnastics.

the only other outlook, though, is Zelenksy is delusional. He's making a complete fool of himself by not only not apologizing, but insisting it wasn't Ukraine when Joe Biden himself said yeah it was.

[DarkTZeratul]

the only other outlook, though, is Zelenksy is delusional. He's making a complete fool of himself by not only not apologizing, but insisting it wasn't Ukraine when Joe Biden himself said yeah it was.

Do you recall what we've said about you acting like every situation is a binary choice between only the two most extreme possibilities? Because that's what you're doing here.

[YUPPIE]

Do you recall what we've said about you acting like every situation is a binary choice between only the two most extreme possibilities? Because that's what you're doing here.

UKRAINE ACCIDENTALLY KILLED two people. Poland and the US forgave them, though. Zelenksy's response? "I swear it was still Russia." No apology or anything.

It is indeed a bad outlook.

[Slant]

Is it? How so? Things could be so much better, but they aren't because the political will is not existent, on one part of the globe atrocities are shouted out about loud and clear, if it affects those around them, in other parts they are ignored if they are inconvenient, or well pragmatic. If you honestly want to enforce a truly moral system on the globe, you need to utterly break the status quo, because currently the globe runs on fucking suffering.

Just because the world isn't a fairytale Utopia blowing happiness up your ass doesn't mean nobody cares. You should read some context into your head before making such silly statements. In the history of mankind, this is the most peaceful time. EVER.

Don't let a very regional war that affects you emotionally distort the big picture, or you'll make a fool of yourself with statements just like this. I wonder, did you rip it from Twitter or something? It's just the type of emotional social media bullshit people would throw up to generate clicks...

[Yetanothernewbie]

Of course he is, once a clown, always a clown.

If Zelensky is a clown then you are a full on three ring circus pal. Absolutely none of this would be happening if Russia had just stayed in it's shithole lane.

[DarkAmbient]

If Zelensky is a clown then you are a full on three ring circus pal. Absolutely none of this would be happening if Russia had just stayed in it's shithole lane.

True, but Ukraine being the victim doesn't render Zelensky free from critique.

[Saradain]

The clown in question can be in denial despite hard evidence, but he still leads his nation quite successfully against genocidal Nazi Russia. And said genocide deniers can't do shit about that. Other than call Zelensky a clown.

[Strawberry]

If Zelensky is a clown then you are a full on three ring circus pal. Absolutely none of this would be happening if Russia had just stayed in it's shithole lane.

Do you even known his history? I'm not wrong.

[noremorze]

Of course he is, once a clown, always a clown.

For a clown he seems the be doing quite alright, unlike Putin.

[Shadowferal]

More comedian than clown. Although he has yet to say anything amusing. Bear in mind he has to deal with local politics.

[Lahis]

Well Zeleskyi is a literal comedian, so no misinfoemation there.

[Okacz]

Why does everyone immediately assume Zelensky is straight up lying? The guy has been acting very respectful and thankful to his allies so far, and for what I've seen he's been mostly transparent about the situation in Ukraine. Wouldn't him chosing to immediately lie about the missile be kind of uncharacteristic? Especially since if he'd know it's their anti-missile rocket, he'd also know that coming clean in this situation would cost him nothing, as it's obviously russias fault anyway.