Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Edge-]

the point is: bad people are let loose in the chaos. Don't forget Russia isn't discriminating or picky, they'll empty whole prisons to send to the battlefield right now, and they're planning on drafting teenagers from occupied territories.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/8/7379918/

...and? You think some guy in there for armed robbery or kidnapping, with no military training, is any more of a serious threat as any other conscript?

[YUPPIE]

...and? You think some guy in there for armed robbery or kidnapping, with no military training, is any more of a serious threat as any other conscript?

on civilians, yes. Especially when they're on the loose with guns.

Remember the guys that went AWOL reportedly started by brutally murdering their commanding officers, meaning they killed people with military training before fucking off.

[LilSaihah]

...and? You think some guy in there for armed robbery or kidnapping, with no military training, is any more of a serious threat as any other conscript?

Absolutely, 18 year old Timmy who was planning to go to university to study medicine but got drafted is probably less likely to be a dickhead than 30 year old Jimmy convicted for violent crimes with however many guns and grenades he can steal before going AWOL.

[Slant]

But this was Russia not Malaysia (or Singapore to take a really non-corrupt country with harsh laws against ganja) - and mere possession of the amount she had (less than a gram) would normally just be a slap on the wrist, or more likely a good way for the police extract a bribe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Russia
https://cannadelics.com/2020/03/08/h...ion-in-russia/
But irregular application of the law is part of the system in corrupt countries.

It doesn't matter. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Especially as an American going to Russia of all places.

[Gabriel]

on civilians, yes. Especially when they're on the loose with guns.

Remember the guys that went AWOL reportedly started by brutally murdering their commanding officers, meaning they killed people with military training before fucking off.

You don't need to be some mastermind to shoot your CO in the back.

[Slant]

Ehh, she was a fucking retard for breaking the law in russia of all places, but I wouldn't wish time in russian prison for even the worst russiaboos on this forum.

And like I said earlier, the arms dealer should have been pushed out of a window instead if he was such bad of a person, rather than be kept locked up indefinitely.

Oh, I don't wish Russian prison on anyone either. That Russia is clearly doing all kinds of shitty things to an American, including the worst prison imaginable, is a given. That's why I don't see a point in discussing that aspect of it. That Russia probably made up shit on the spot to get 9 years prison out of a joke like weed is also not worth discussing, except as I pointed out earlier, that countries like Malaysia have the death penalty, so... lucky her ignorance didn't show there, I guess?

[Gabriel]

Oh, I don't wish Russian prison on anyone either. That Russia is clearly doing all kinds of shitty things to an American, including the worst prison imaginable, is a given. That's why I don't see a point in discussing that aspect of it. That Russia probably made up shit on the spot to get 9 years prison out of a joke like weed is also not worth discussing, except as I pointed out earlier, that countries like Malaysia have the death penalty, so... lucky her ignorance didn't show there, I guess?

She was lucky indeed. Lets hope she learned something from this.

[Iphie]

There probably are bad people in the there, but I have to wonder how many of them are just ordinary Russian citizens who protested the war?

Depends, I doubt Wagner took those. I mean prigozhin allegedly wanted assault troopers, regular russians are not gonna cut in that scenario but hard criminals might.

[Azadina]

For once YUPPIE has a point: We don't want them AWOL and MIA in Ukraine, if they're in russia who cares, but I do care if they are in Ukraine.

Considering there's still probably couple hundred thousand rapists and murderers loose in Ukraine, some being loose from prisons seems somewhat of a strange thing to be concerned of in the grand scheme of things.

[Gabriel]

Depends, I doubt Wagner took those. I mean prigozhin allegedly wanted assault troopers, regular russians are not gonna cut in that scenario but hard criminals might.

Every time I hear about Wanker recruiting prisoners I'm reminded of this legendary Finnish lieutenant colonel way back from the Continuation War, Nikke Pärmi. He was the commander of a penal company, and one quote of him when interviewing new recruits goes something like this:

"Private, what's your reason for being in prison in the first place?"
"I stabbed someone to death..."
"Well well, murder you say. That's excellent recommendation. It is professionals like you we need in the war."

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Oof. Literally unusable by anything larger than a sedan.

[Forogil]

It doesn't matter. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Especially as an American going to Russia of all places.

It matters, since her major mistake was going to Russia when Russia is feebly trying to project strength in Ukraine and elsewhere, not that she had almost a gram of illegal substances.

So, if the US state department says "Do Not Travel", https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-al...nuary-23-2022/ - citing

Do not travel to Russia due to ongoing tension along the border with Ukraine, the potential for harassment against U.S. citizens

then Do Not Travel to Russia.

As obvious from the date and language that travel advisory was issued already before the invasion, it has later been updated (really don't travel to Crimea).

Merely looking at the letter of the law in a corrupt country, like Russia, is also bound to win you stupid prices.

[Slant]

It matters, since her major mistake was going to Russia when Russia is feebly trying to project strength in Ukraine and elsewhere, not that she had almost a gram of illegal substances.

So, if the US state department says "Do Not Travel", https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-al...nuary-23-2022/ - citing then Do Not Travel to Russia.

As obvious from the date and language that travel advisory was issued already before the invasion, it has later been updated (really don't travel to Crimea).

Merely looking at the letter of the law in a corrupt country, like Russia, is also bound to win you stupid prices.

I think you're literally just quoting stuff to support the point I've made in the past 2-3 posts. So, thanks. Not sure why you are angry with me, but that's alright.

[Iphie]

Considering there's still probably couple hundred thousand rapists and murderers loose in Ukraine, some being loose from prisons seems somewhat of a strange thing to be concerned of in the grand scheme of things.

Soldiers leave when told to, or at least that's the theory. Those escaped prisoners don't. That's why I'm concerned.

[XDurionX]

Soldiers leave when told to, or at least that's the theory. Those escaped prisoners don't. That's why I'm concerned.

As if russian superiors would order their grunts to stop pillaging and raping. As if they'd follow these orders anyway.

[YUPPIE]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...6-fdffe5150000

Apparently, Israel threatens to bomb airports from Iran if they detect weapon smuggling; while I'm not sure if this is entirely related to Russia = Iran exports, does Israel not fear incurring Putin's wrath in the chance what's smuggled is for Russia? Putin does have strong ties with Bashar after all.

[Kallisto]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...6-fdffe5150000

Apparently, Israel threatens to bomb airports from Iran if they detect weapon smuggling; while I'm not sure if this is entirely related to Russia = Iran exports, does Israel not fear incurring Putin's wrath in the chance what's smuggled is for Russia? Putin does have strong ties with Bashar after all.

You just have to look at the article "Weapons for Hezbollah and Syria" two groups Israel has been at war with for decades.

[Veggie50]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...6-fdffe5150000

Apparently, Israel threatens to bomb airports from Iran if they detect weapon smuggling; while I'm not sure if this is entirely related to Russia = Iran exports, does Israel not fear incurring Putin's wrath in the chance what's smuggled is for Russia? Putin does have strong ties with Bashar after all.

Oooh I know the answer to that one!

No, Israel does not.

[YUPPIE]

You just have to look at the article "Weapons for Hezbollah and Syria" two groups Israel has been at war with for decades.

Yes I know. Look up Putin's ties with Syria, though; specifically, his role in propping up Assad's regime.

[Gabriel]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...6-fdffe5150000

Apparently, Israel threatens to bomb airports from Iran if they detect weapon smuggling; while I'm not sure if this is entirely related to Russia = Iran exports, does Israel not fear incurring Putin's wrath in the chance what's smuggled is for Russia? Putin does have strong ties with Bashar after all.

Why would Israel fear russia?

[Forogil]

I think you're literally just quoting stuff to support the point I've made in the past 2-3 posts. So, thanks. Not sure why you are angry with me, but that's alright.

So by saying that it wasn't a matter of the laws, but instead about Russia harassing Americans I confirmed your point that "you do not fuck with other countries' law", "It's not a surprise what Russians consider crimes.", "One more lady that will promote the attitude that no country's laws matter except the US...".

Sure.