Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Makabreska]

What in the wide, wide, world of sports is this bullshit?

It's one of THESE guys. Few days ago he was pushing "russia stronk" narrative.

[jeezusisacasual]

I mean, I hope you people understand as awful as it sounds considering how much people want him dead: Vladimir Putin is regularly offered to surrender with his life by the day; there is nothing saying the war has to end with him surrendering himself to the Hague or anything with his imprisonment/execution.

Even now, Joe Biden is still saying Putin can just quit alive.

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Interesting development: Wagner head claims France attempted an assassination on a Russian official in Africa

The head of a Russian private militia accused France of attempting to assassinate the head of a Russian representative office in the Central African Republic, who was seriously injured on Friday after opening a mail bomb.

Dmitry Syty, head of the "Russian House," was taken to a hospital in the capital Bangui and by late afternoon his condition was serious, but stable, the Russian Embassy said, according to the Russian RIA Novosti news agency.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-725079

I think like many others that the Russian army is nothing more then the bloke who talks big but cant do anything worthwhile when forced they are peoples drunk uncle who thinks they can take on a professional fighter after they had a few pints. Will it make my heating bills higher? More then likely but thats a price worth paying to ensure those people learn that they have no say in the current world order. Russia appears to be fighting with the idea that they are nothing but a bit player and losing ground yearly to the US and China and they must lash out over it and let's be real here for a moment they can not stop anyone from giving Ukraine arms and aid since if they could they would have done something by now not just opening their mouth after getting rockets inside their own country.

I feel for the everyday Russian that will lose quality of life over this horrible choice by their leaders but its also up to them to start so many fires inside the country that it forces Putin's hand since he knows he cant just turn guns on his own people in large enough numbers. Just imagine if the West blocked medical devices, medicine, filtration items and other very important items in the everyday life?

Also here is the rub with them accusing France, what can they do even if it is true? They are in no position to stop or dispute or even challenge anyone now and the whole world knows it.

[jonnysensible]

I think like many others that the Russian army is nothing more then the bloke who talks big but cant do anything worthwhile when forced they are peoples drunk uncle who thinks they can take on a professional fighter after they had a few pints. .

still killed 100,000 ukranians, crippled 200,000, stole a few thousand children, traumatized the rest and wiped out a countries infrastructure + there will be kids getting their legs blown off and farmers in exploding tractors for years to come.

As dogshit as the Russians are they can still do an incredible amount of damage. (fortunately they are doing so much damage to themselves as well).

But its no joke.

Its good too see wagner getting airstriked in CAR, kill all those bastards. Mercenaries are the lowest form of life.

[Kaleredar]

Allowing Russia to win would basically be the greenlight message that China can invade Taiwan and the West won't do much about it.

You know what happens in Taiwan? Oh no much, just most of the world's electronics being made, and if China acquires Taiwan it will have an unbelievable amount of control over the world's electronics market, which would be a kick in the balls to the West's economy.

The Right can brag and bluster about staying out of wars, but they're not DUMB.

If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.

The trump-aligned politicians, and certainly trump himself, are self-interested, and that’s what’s dangerous. They don’t care what Russia is doing… so long as Russia is paying them. They don’t care what giving up on Ukraine signals, so long as Russia is able to keep channeling them money. They don’t care who controls Taiwan; their Russian income, various offshore accounts, and/or private income and gift money will see them through any economic hardships caused.

[YUPPIE]

still killed 100,000 ukranians, crippled 200,000, stole a few thousand children, traumatized the rest and wiped out a countries infrastructure + there will be kids getting their legs blown off and farmers in exploding tractors for years to come.

As dogshit as the Russians are they can still do an incredible amount of damage.

and in spite of all that, the media has been downplaying it a lot lately with the Russian's incompetence. Like they're portrayed as these bumbling idiots blowing themselves up, not what you just described them as (i.e a threat)

[jonnysensible]

and in spite of all that, the media has been downplaying it a lot lately with the Russian's incompetence. Like they're portrayed as these bumbling idiots blowing themselves up, not what you just described them as (i.e a threat)

i mean they are quite poorly trained, i just watched 13 guys get vaporised because they didnt have any sort of force dispersal. But any idiot with a gun is dangerous. Mines, artillery and rockets can kill alot of people.

Russia have had success with the mobiks plugging the lines and they are getting better at probing ukrainian defenses. Gonna be a rough spring for everyone.

this is a decent article on how shit the russians are tho : https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-ukraine.html

[Rasulis]

As I understood it there's plenty of bipartisan support in the house to keep on supporting Ukraine. Not to mention that the weapon industry is making a killing (pun not intended) of this and something tells me that they also have a fair share of donor recipients.

Has anybody seen Lockheed Martin stock? It more than doubled since the war started. The dividend also went up.

All the others such as Northrop Grumman, General Dynamic, Raytheon, etc., also went up. Keep in mind that we are currently in the middle of a bear market.

Hiring has also been strong. All the tech workers being laid off by Twitter, Facebook, etc., are being snapped up by the US defense industry.

[YUPPIE]

Do it and see what happens.

Well, should you be worried? Today Russia announced it will no longer respond to summons or security guarantees with NATO, specifically in response to the talk of NATO states being "legitimate targets" a few days ago.

NATO-Russia communication is "out of the question" currently, while Russia's war is underway against Ukraine, state media reported, after a top Russian official suggested that NATO countries could be "legitimate" military targets.

According to Russian News Agency TASS, dialogues between NATO and Russia are not going to happen due to current developments. The state-run news agency cited an unnamed source in Moscow with this update.

The source told TASS, Russia "should not be expected" to make "a conceptual return" to previous security guarantees that it sent to the United States and NATO a year ago.


"We won't be the ones to do it," the source told TASS. "The reason is that if we do, the need will arise to update the position, which cannot be updated because everything depends on how the situation on the ground unfolds during the special military operation," the source noted.

This update comes after former Russian president and deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev suggested that all NATO nations could be subject to military targeting.

[Corvus]

Just ignore anything the russians say. What isn't lies is meaningless drivel.

[YUPPIE]

Just ignore anything the russians say. What isn't lies is meaningless drivel.

That'd be true and hold weight if they were just trolling without action and haven't been raping and killing civilians for an entire year, causing massive economic damage globally, and destroying the ecosystem through aquatic genocide.

Their threats should be taken seriously considering the damage they've inflicted.

[Iphie]

That'd be true and hold weight if they were just trolling without action and haven't been raping and killing civilians for an entire year, causing massive economic damage globally, and destroying the ecosystem through aquatic genocide.

Their threats should be taken seriously considering the damage they've inflicted.

Eh, are you ok dude? You sound a bit unhinged...well more unhinged than usual.

[Combatbutler]

Their threats should be taken seriously considering the damage they've inflicted.

Why? The Russians have yet to act out of their usual modus operandi, are you aware what they did to the people in afghanistan back in the day? All that ultimately matters with Russia is the will of their oligarchs and whether they will continue to see this whole ordeal a worthy endeavor.

[YUPPIE]

Eh, are you ok dude? You sound a bit unhinged...well more unhinged than usual.

Something often not mentioned here is how much the Russians have been polluting the sea, directly or indirectly, in their naval incursions on Ukraine. They've killed and are killing an unfathomable amount of sealife, mainly of dolphins and seals.

[Kallisto]

Just ignore anything the russians say. What isn't lies is meaningless drivel.

I dig a little digging into this and it doesn't state Russia will refuse to talk with NATO countries, hell it actually states they will still talk through other means like the OSCE.

[Gabriel]

Well, should you be worried? Today Russia announced it will no longer respond to summons or security guarantees with NATO, specifically in response to the talk of NATO states being "legitimate targets" a few days ago.

NATO-Russia communication is "out of the question" currently, while Russia's war is underway against Ukraine, state media reported, after a top Russian official suggested that NATO countries could be "legitimate" military targets.

According to Russian News Agency TASS, dialogues between NATO and Russia are not going to happen due to current developments. The state-run news agency cited an unnamed source in Moscow with this update.

The source told TASS, Russia "should not be expected" to make "a conceptual return" to previous security guarantees that it sent to the United States and NATO a year ago.


"We won't be the ones to do it," the source told TASS. "The reason is that if we do, the need will arise to update the position, which cannot be updated because everything depends on how the situation on the ground unfolds during the special military operation," the source noted.

This update comes after former Russian president and deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev suggested that all NATO nations could be subject to military targeting.

I don't care. Either way, my children won't have to worry about russia when they grow up.

[YUPPIE]

I don't care. Either way, my children won't have to worry about russia when they grow up.

You have a really optimistic outlook that the only future that awaits Russia is it being demilitarized and economically reduced to a third-world country.

I have a different view of the future - as soon as 2023 - personally.

[Forogil]

And to lighten the mood at the subway-station/interview place Zelensky told Letterman this joke:

Two Jews meet in Odessa. One asks the other:
"And how is the situation there? What do they say?"
"Well, what do they say, they say there's war," says the other.
"What war?"
"Russia is at war with NATO."
"So how's the war going?"
"Well, the Russians lost 70,000 troops, all rockets were used up, a lot of military equipment was destroyed."
"And how about NATO?"
"Well, what about NATO? NATO has not arrived yet."

(As seen on Netflix.)

[Kathranis]

If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.

Yeah that must be why every couple weeks Biden is approving hundreds of millions, often billions in military assistance to Ukraine while heavily sanctioning Russia.

The ones pushing pro-Russian agendas are Conservatives, especially the Trumpists.

[YUPPIE]

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. doesn't want Russia to win, but he doesn't want them to lose too hard.

Commentators want Russia to be demilitarized and reduced to a third-world country for penance.

Joe Biden just wants Russia to surrender, then go back to business as before (i.e, before 2022).

[Gabriel]

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. doesn't want Russia to win, but he doesn't want them to lose too hard.

Commentators want Russia to be demilitarized and reduced to a third-world country for penance.

Joe Biden just wants Russia to surrender, then go back to business as before (i.e, before 2022).

The US wants to kill russia without having to be the one to hold the gun.