1. #26941
    More evidence of muscovy's ammo supply issues - a recent captured packing slip of 152mm ammo shows it was manufactured this year as part of an order for Azerbaijan. Basically the russians failed to deliver it and took it for their own use.

    https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/...t1RsQcatQTk8Vw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Do it and see what happens.
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    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    For those that said Russia is running out of missiles, according to Zelensky, they have enough to perform at least several more attacks on the scale of yesterday

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/16/7381111/

    Not much to reiterate here past that, other than yesterday's missile strikes depriving Kharkiv of all power.
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    So a couple of hundred left then after firing off many thousands already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    So a couple of hundred left then after firing off many thousands already.
    the point is: they can still wreak havoc with what they have. Like in spite of Ukraine boasting they shot down some 60 of 70 missiles yesterday, look at what went through did. It's horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Perhaps Vladdy has hopes that once his "Donor Recipients" are in control of the House of Representatives, Ukraine assistance will grind to a fucking halt. This would severely limit the resources Ukraine has and make it easier to drown them in bodies when they aren't getting rearmed.
    As I understood it there's plenty of bipartisan support in the house to keep on supporting Ukraine. Not to mention that the weapon industry is making a killing (pun not intended) of this and something tells me that they also have a fair share of donor recipients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Perhaps Vladdy has hopes that once his "Donor Recipients" are in control of the House of Representatives, Ukraine assistance will grind to a fucking halt. This would severely limit the resources Ukraine has and make it easier to drown them in bodies when they aren't getting rearmed.
    Allowing Russia to win would basically be the greenlight message that China can invade Taiwan and the West won't do much about it.

    You know what happens in Taiwan? Oh no much, just most of the world's electronics being made, and if China acquires Taiwan it will have an unbelievable amount of control over the world's electronics market, which would be a kick in the balls to the West's economy.

    The Right can brag and bluster about staying out of wars, but they're not DUMB.

    If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.
    Excuse me? The president that currently is sending tons of support to Ukraine wants Russia to win? That is just blatantly untrue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.
    What in the wide, wide, world of sports is this bullshit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    What in the wide, wide, world of sports is this bullshit?
    It's one of THESE guys. Few days ago he was pushing "russia stronk" narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I mean, I hope you people understand as awful as it sounds considering how much people want him dead: Vladimir Putin is regularly offered to surrender with his life by the day; there is nothing saying the war has to end with him surrendering himself to the Hague or anything with his imprisonment/execution.

    Even now, Joe Biden is still saying Putin can just quit alive.

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    Interesting development: Wagner head claims France attempted an assassination on a Russian official in Africa

    The head of a Russian private militia accused France of attempting to assassinate the head of a Russian representative office in the Central African Republic, who was seriously injured on Friday after opening a mail bomb.

    Dmitry Syty, head of the "Russian House," was taken to a hospital in the capital Bangui and by late afternoon his condition was serious, but stable, the Russian Embassy said, according to the Russian RIA Novosti news agency.

    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-725079
    I think like many others that the Russian army is nothing more then the bloke who talks big but cant do anything worthwhile when forced they are peoples drunk uncle who thinks they can take on a professional fighter after they had a few pints. Will it make my heating bills higher? More then likely but thats a price worth paying to ensure those people learn that they have no say in the current world order. Russia appears to be fighting with the idea that they are nothing but a bit player and losing ground yearly to the US and China and they must lash out over it and let's be real here for a moment they can not stop anyone from giving Ukraine arms and aid since if they could they would have done something by now not just opening their mouth after getting rockets inside their own country.

    I feel for the everyday Russian that will lose quality of life over this horrible choice by their leaders but its also up to them to start so many fires inside the country that it forces Putin's hand since he knows he cant just turn guns on his own people in large enough numbers. Just imagine if the West blocked medical devices, medicine, filtration items and other very important items in the everyday life?

    Also here is the rub with them accusing France, what can they do even if it is true? They are in no position to stop or dispute or even challenge anyone now and the whole world knows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeezusisacasual View Post
    I think like many others that the Russian army is nothing more then the bloke who talks big but cant do anything worthwhile when forced they are peoples drunk uncle who thinks they can take on a professional fighter after they had a few pints. .
    still killed 100,000 ukranians, crippled 200,000, stole a few thousand children, traumatized the rest and wiped out a countries infrastructure + there will be kids getting their legs blown off and farmers in exploding tractors for years to come.

    As dogshit as the Russians are they can still do an incredible amount of damage. (fortunately they are doing so much damage to themselves as well).

    But its no joke.

    Its good too see wagner getting airstriked in CAR, kill all those bastards. Mercenaries are the lowest form of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    Allowing Russia to win would basically be the greenlight message that China can invade Taiwan and the West won't do much about it.

    You know what happens in Taiwan? Oh no much, just most of the world's electronics being made, and if China acquires Taiwan it will have an unbelievable amount of control over the world's electronics market, which would be a kick in the balls to the West's economy.

    The Right can brag and bluster about staying out of wars, but they're not DUMB.

    If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.
    The trump-aligned politicians, and certainly trump himself, are self-interested, and that’s what’s dangerous. They don’t care what Russia is doing… so long as Russia is paying them. They don’t care what giving up on Ukraine signals, so long as Russia is able to keep channeling them money. They don’t care who controls Taiwan; their Russian income, various offshore accounts, and/or private income and gift money will see them through any economic hardships caused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    still killed 100,000 ukranians, crippled 200,000, stole a few thousand children, traumatized the rest and wiped out a countries infrastructure + there will be kids getting their legs blown off and farmers in exploding tractors for years to come.

    As dogshit as the Russians are they can still do an incredible amount of damage.
    and in spite of all that, the media has been downplaying it a lot lately with the Russian's incompetence. Like they're portrayed as these bumbling idiots blowing themselves up, not what you just described them as (i.e a threat)
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    and in spite of all that, the media has been downplaying it a lot lately with the Russian's incompetence. Like they're portrayed as these bumbling idiots blowing themselves up, not what you just described them as (i.e a threat)
    i mean they are quite poorly trained, i just watched 13 guys get vaporised because they didnt have any sort of force dispersal. But any idiot with a gun is dangerous. Mines, artillery and rockets can kill alot of people.

    Russia have had success with the mobiks plugging the lines and they are getting better at probing ukrainian defenses. Gonna be a rough spring for everyone.

    this is a decent article on how shit the russians are tho : https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-ukraine.html
    Last edited by jonnysensible; 2022-12-17 at 08:27 PM.

  16. #26956
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazza View Post
    As I understood it there's plenty of bipartisan support in the house to keep on supporting Ukraine. Not to mention that the weapon industry is making a killing (pun not intended) of this and something tells me that they also have a fair share of donor recipients.
    Has anybody seen Lockheed Martin stock? It more than doubled since the war started. The dividend also went up.

    All the others such as Northrop Grumman, General Dynamic, Raytheon, etc., also went up. Keep in mind that we are currently in the middle of a bear market.

    Hiring has also been strong. All the tech workers being laid off by Twitter, Facebook, etc., are being snapped up by the US defense industry.

  17. #26957
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Do it and see what happens.
    Well, should you be worried? Today Russia announced it will no longer respond to summons or security guarantees with NATO, specifically in response to the talk of NATO states being "legitimate targets" a few days ago.

    NATO-Russia communication is "out of the question" currently, while Russia's war is underway against Ukraine, state media reported, after a top Russian official suggested that NATO countries could be "legitimate" military targets.

    According to Russian News Agency TASS, dialogues between NATO and Russia are not going to happen due to current developments. The state-run news agency cited an unnamed source in Moscow with this update.

    The source told TASS, Russia "should not be expected" to make "a conceptual return" to previous security guarantees that it sent to the United States and NATO a year ago.


    "We won't be the ones to do it," the source told TASS. "The reason is that if we do, the need will arise to update the position, which cannot be updated because everything depends on how the situation on the ground unfolds during the special military operation," the source noted.

    This update comes after former Russian president and deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev suggested that all NATO nations could be subject to military targeting.
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  18. #26958
    Just ignore anything the russians say. What isn't lies is meaningless drivel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Just ignore anything the russians say. What isn't lies is meaningless drivel.
    That'd be true and hold weight if they were just trolling without action and haven't been raping and killing civilians for an entire year, causing massive economic damage globally, and destroying the ecosystem through aquatic genocide.

    Their threats should be taken seriously considering the damage they've inflicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    That'd be true and hold weight if they were just trolling without action and haven't been raping and killing civilians for an entire year, causing massive economic damage globally, and destroying the ecosystem through aquatic genocide.

    Their threats should be taken seriously considering the damage they've inflicted.
    Eh, are you ok dude? You sound a bit unhinged...well more unhinged than usual.

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