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    But but YUPPIE got that from reddit, which is a very credible "news" source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    And as always, you entirely ignore the fact that Russia keeps saying wild shit that doesn't mean anything
    I take any threat Russia makes to another nation seriously, if it is one specifically within their geopolitical agendas or sphere. Japan is actually within this grid since WW2.

    Before the Ukraine 2022 war even happened, Russia has committed innumerable assassinations and espionage attacks on the soil of other nations, a lot of whom are casually documented on Wikipedia. And that's not even getting into the big shit like Syria and Jihadist movements.

    Russia is a vestigial threat to the world and should not be underestimated or viewed in the same league as North Korea, which is what most people draw comparisons to with Kim's own escalating threats to the South in 2022.

    As Kissinger stated: the world at large is mostly seeing Russia as some ineffectual baboon due to the media's coverage of their most humiliating losses in Ukraine, which is a grave mistake.
    Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-12-20 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    But but YUPPIE got that from reddit, which is a very credible "news" source.
    I thought Reddit was a very credible "nudes" source.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Russia has threatened pretty much everyone by now and followed through on not a single threat.

    Meanwhile, while pootie stays as far away as possible from his war, Zelensky pays a visit to Bakhmut.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64038140

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I take any threat Russia makes to another nation seriously, if it is one specifically within their geopolitical agendas or sphere. Japan is actually within this grid since WW2.

    Before the Ukraine 2022 war even happened, Russia has committed innumerable assassinations and espionage attacks on the soil of other nations, a lot of whom are casually documented on Wikipedia. And that's not even getting into the big shit like Syria and Jihadist movements.

    Russia is a vestigial threat to the world and should not be underestimated or viewed in the same league as North Korea, which is what most people draw comparisons to with Kim's own escalating threats to the South in 2022.

    As Kissinger stated: the world at large is mostly seeing Russia as some ineffectual baboon due to the media's coverage of their most humiliating losses in Ukraine, which is a grave mistake.
    And once again, you take a what, 99 year old has-been seriously in current modern times, as a source of absolute truth.

    But gotcha, you believe anything and everything Russia says. Good for Russia. At least if you post the stuff you post here, elsewhere where larger audience of gullible people roam. With your biased, bad sources. While ignoring anything that discredits your doomposting. Cus Russia is totally gonna take on USA and Japan, but cus they said so (...according to your biased, bad source), it must be true!
    Last edited by Saradain; 2022-12-20 at 12:09 PM.

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    If this is true then

    Putin: Join war pls?
    Luka: hmmm nah

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1605075270674681857

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    When Belarus tells russia to GTFO I think it's kind of a wrap. putin seems to have gambled and lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    When Belarus tells russia to GTFO I think it's kind of a wrap. putin seems to have gambled and lost.
    The thing about "strongman" dictators is that they have no respect for other "strongmen" who show weakness. Putin's comically bad "three day invasion" is a major blow to him in the eyes of his fellow autocrats.

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    I think we should also remember that for Lukashenko the union state is not a thing to him to be bossed by Russia, it has always been a thing for him to set himself up as the person who takes control of the Union State. Putin to Lukashenko is sitting in his throne that he has been after since the Yeltsin era. Also everytime Luka brings up NATO it's more him using a coded message for "No I am not joining your war Putin."

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    The thing about "strongman" dictators is that they have no respect for other "strongmen" who show weakness. Putin's comically bad "three day invasion" is a major blow to him in the eyes of his fellow autocrats.
    That's kinda my point, putin is losing ground, rapidly. There's been rumours about putin contemplating fleeing, but those are of course very speculative, in any case allegedly he decided against China as he doesn't feel safe there. (as you say, autocrats despise weakness and China is on steroids when it comes to despising losers.) Regardless of how weak Luka perceives putin to be I would think he'd still consider him strong enough to not just dismiss him, unless putin has truly lost all power, I mean Luka doesn't strike me as a "strongman" just as a big bully with a big stick.

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    Russia bots: China will side with Russia any day no.....

    https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/a...ns-local-media

    Huawei essentially pulls out of Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    If this is true then

    Putin: Join war pls?
    Luka: hmmm nah

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1605075270674681857
    I mean, didn't this exact same thing already happen back in February?

    Belarus wanted nothing to do with this war when Russia was going to win it in short order. Obviously he wants nothing to do with it now that Russia is losing, badly.
    And unlike Russia itself, Belarus will likely not be immune to counter attack in the event that he does stupidly decide to join in anyway.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I mean, didn't this exact same thing already happen back in February?

    Belarus wanted nothing to do with this war when Russia was going to win it in short order. Obviously he wants nothing to do with it now that Russia is losing, badly.
    And unlike Russia itself, Belarus will likely not be immune to counter attack in the event that he does stupidly decide to join in anyway.
    Eh, with the proximity of Belarus russia might be stupid. If not...well an insect lasts longer....

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    I never appreciated this narrative spun since 2022 that Lukashenko is actually smart and not subservient to Putin; before this year, people have always cited him as a bafoon and Putin's absolute bootlicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    When Belarus tells russia to GTFO I think it's kind of a wrap. putin seems to have gambled and lost.
    Pretty much. Russia's attacks against Ukrainian infrastructure aren't proving effective, and their own supply issues are hamstringing mobilization and sustaining existing forces; to say nothing of the fact Ukraine's missile defenses are likely to get a massive boost with the US Patriot shipment.

    If we do see any movement in the next few months, it's more than likely going to be a Ukrainian offensive towards Melitopol in an effort to bisect Russian supply lines and start choking off defenders in Kherson and Crimea.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I never appreciated this narrative spun since 2022 that Lukashenko is actually smart and not subservient to Putin; before this year, people have always cited him as a bafoon and Putin's absolute bootlicker.
    Before this year Lukashenko hadn't done anything to dispel that notion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I never appreciated this narrative spun since 2022 that Lukashenko is actually smart and not subservient to Putin; before this year, people have always cited him as a bafoon and Putin's absolute bootlicker.
    he is a buffoon and a bootlicker

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    then why can he ever say "no" to Putin? Multiple times even. Putin isn't afraid to sentence people to death for far less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    then why can he ever say "no" to Putin? Multiple times even. Putin isn't afraid to sentence people to death for far less.
    i feel like you know the answer and that you are trolling. you know the world doesn't work like this but pretend you dont.

    Lukashenko is a survivor and will not become a vassal. The entire country is built around him and his networks, Russia dismantling that would be unthinkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    then why can he ever say "no" to Putin? Multiple times even. Putin isn't afraid to sentence people to death for far less.
    Why do you think Putin doesn't order the death of the head of another country? Go ahead, take your time. You can do this.

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