Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Rasulis]

Another $1.8 billion in aid announced by the US, sure to give pootie and his tankies more tears.

The Patriot system has been confirmed, though only 1 of them. Given they cost $1 billion per system they don't come cheap. Includes a lot of Warsaw Pact sized ammo, including 100,000 rounds for their tanks and 50,000 round for Grad rockets. Guess the US found another source of soviet ammo from somewhere.

One is probably enough. Patriot missiles are $4M a pop. Ukraine likely will reserve those for airplane bombers and cruise missiles. At least I hope they won't use them to shoot down $50k Iranian drones.

[Corvus]

Compare and contrast.

[Strawberry]

Russia was never, ever going to attack a US government plane.

Russia is scared of the US. Not the other way around.

I think everyone with nukes is afraid of each other.
I'm pretty sure there's a Poseidon sitting in wait near every major port city in the world. Undetectable until it activates. At that time it will be too late.
Miami, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, all would be erased within a few minutes.

[Iphie]

I think everyone with nukes is afraid of each other.
I'm pretty sure there's a Poseidon sitting in wait near every major port city in the world. Undetectable until it activates. At that time it will be too late.
Miami, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, all would be erased within a few minutes.

Yeah no, by all accounts Poseidon is another one of those grandiose russian things that's not even worth the paper it is described on.

But let's entertain the thought that it works, how long do you think it'll take to produce that many 100Mt torpedo nukes? And that is not even counting that some ports cannot be threatened by them as the collateral would be russian territory.

[YUPPIE]

They're just openly calling Putin a terrorist now on TV. And by "they," I mean government officials and Biden, not just social media goers.

I lost track of how many times on the conference today they called him terrorist with some peppers of murderer and warmonger.

[jonnysensible]

They're just openly calling Putin a terrorist now on TV. And by "they," I mean government officials and Biden, not just social media goers.

I lost track of how many times on the conference today they called him terrorist with some peppers of murderer and warmonger.

he is a terrorist, hopefully he ends up getting gaddaffi'd

[Corvus]

They're just openly calling Putin a terrorist now on TV. And by "they," I mean government officials and Biden, not just social media goers.

I lost track of how many times on the conference today they called him terrorist with some peppers of murderer and warmonger.

It's almost like someone is upset pooties teeny tiny pecker has been mocked.

[YUPPIE]

the problem with saying these things is it means now diplomacy or anything of the sort like amiable relations with Russia is out the window.

Now the terms are more or less: Surrender. Otherwise, there's nothing to say.

[Elder Millennial]

the problem with saying these things is it means now diplomacy or anything of the sort like amiable relations with Russia is out the window.

Now the terms are more or less: Surrender. Otherwise, there's nothing to say.

Nobody is talking about surrender.....Good god what is your problem?

All Russia needs to do is...go back to Russia. The war is over. Tada. Nobody is going to occupy Moscow.

[callipygoustp]

Or Russia could assassinate Putin and then with draws.

[YUPPIE]

All Russia needs to do is...go back to Russia.

that's surrendering, admitting total defeat

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Or Russia could assassinate Putin and then with draws.

The Russians at large genuinely love Putin. That's not hyperbole either given the chaos in Iran right now; if they were oppressed or whatever, it could be like that, but it isn't because they genuinely love Putin.

[jonnysensible]

the problem with saying these things is it means now diplomacy or anything of the sort like amiable relations with Russia is out the window.

Now the terms are more or less: Surrender. Otherwise, there's nothing to say.

yup thats all ok. We should have set up a no fly zone over ukraine at the start of the war, what are those piss pants russians gonna do. Fuck them.

[Elder Millennial]

that's surrendering, admitting total defeat

How is Russia maintaining unchallenged its internationally recognized borders and complete political integrity equal to total defeat?

I'm going to kill myself. I have to put you on ignore I'll jump out of a window.

[YUPPIE]

Because Russia waged a war? There's winning or losing. If they go back home, Ukraine wins, Russia loses.

[Sorshen]

The Russians at large genuinely love Putin. That's not hyperbole either given the chaos in Iran right now; if they were oppressed or whatever, it could be like that, but it isn't because they genuinely love Putin.

Where do you get these takes, RT News?

Because Russia waged a war? There's winning or losing. If they go back home, Ukraine wins, Russia loses.

Yes, good, they should do that.

[Xyonai]

Because Russia waged a war? There's winning or losing. If they go back home, Ukraine wins, Russia loses.

The only issue with this is that Russia isn't losing fast or decisive enough for my liking.

[Corvus]

The russian population is so brainwashed and servile they'd believe anything they are told. So if pootie pulled out and said they'd won, it would be believed.

[Kaleredar]

I think everyone with nukes is afraid of each other.
I'm pretty sure there's a Poseidon sitting in wait near every major port city in the world. Undetectable until it activates. At that time it will be too late.
Miami, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, all would be erased within a few minutes.

“Here Ukraine, have some more weapons to blow up the Russians. Come on by, we’ll even train you how to do it! And while we’re at it, let’s dial up the sanctions on Russia a little tighter.” ~ The US

“Hey US you better stop that, or we’re gonna send another mindless mouthpiece to say mean things on state-run media again!” ~ Russia’s response

Yeah bud, the US seems real “terrified,” here.

[YUPPIE]

The russian population is so brainwashed and servile they'd believe anything they are told. So if pootie pulled out and said they'd won, it would be believed.

no, they (the citizens) know they're losing right now. They know, believe me they know.

Putin wouldn't be able to fabricate such a lie. However, what drives the Russians right now in their war to win is they genuinely think everything they've suffered, from the lives to Russia regressing into an almost third world country, is because the West is out to destroy them. They think if they surrender now, then they will have truly lost everything.

So that's why they must keep going from their POV. They think if they win in Ukraine, they will be normalcy in their lives again: you know, Mcdonalds, social media, etc.

[Xyonai]

I think everyone with nukes is afraid of each other.
I'm pretty sure there's a Poseidon sitting in wait near every major port city in the world. Undetectable until it activates. At that time it will be too late.
Miami, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, all would be erased within a few minutes.

I think this was true up until it became clear that Russia's conventional forces were fucking hilariously ill prepared to actually launch a war against a near-peer military and how poorly maintained or simply rubbish much of their vaunted equipment was. It calls into question their readiness to even launch nuclear attacks in the first place, and the showing of UA successfully bombing air fields hundreds of KM into Russia tells us that their AA is also absolutely garbage (Likely because they've been using their AA batteries to bomb hospitals and playgrounds and puppy shelters or whatever) and may not even be prepared to protect itself in the case of a nuclear strike.

If their Nuclear Subs are anything like their Air Craft Carriers or their (former) flagship of the Black Sea, then I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of them that still even work or exist to begin with.

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no, they (the citizens) know they're losing right now. They know, believe me they know.

Putin wouldn't be able to fabricate such a lie. However, what drives the Russians right now in their war to win is they genuinely think everything they've suffered, from the lives to Russia regressing into an almost third world country, is because the West is out to destroy them. They think if they surrender now, then they will have truly lost everything.

So that's why they must keep going from their POV. They think if they win in Ukraine, they will be normalcy in their lives again: you know, Mcdonalds, social media, etc.

Then they're deluded and I can play the world's smallest violin when they cry about a NATO armed UA turning their rubbish army of barbarians into a fine red mist.

My sympathy for them really isn't there anymore. I won't dehumanize them, and I think a lot of folks here need to take a step back about ascribing a whole people as a bunch of bloodthirsty monsters, but if the populous is gonna keep trucking on throwing support into a - poorly conducted - genocide then I don't have the energy to feel sad about it when they send another thousand shlubs to be obliterated or complain about being sanctioned over a conflict their shitty dictator started.