Russian invasion of Ukraine

[YUPPIE]

is it illegal to voice your support for - or endorse - Putin and Russia abroad, right now?

I've just noticed a slew of deportations or fines for (mainly Russians) people abroad. But a notable recent case is a woman who has a bounty on herself for encouraging her conscripted husband to rape as much as he can.

There's a lot of these crazy stories, but from what I've seen, they're mostly from those in-state than out of Russia. So I'm not sure what kind of penalties you can incur depending on where you are now for saying this shit abroad.

[Iphie]

is it illegal to voice your support for - or endorse - Putin and Russia abroad, right now?

I've just noticed a slew of deportations or fines for (mainly Russians) people abroad. But a notable recent case is a woman who has a bounty on herself for encouraging her conscripted husband to rape as much as he can.

You disingineous dense MF'r. Maybe you should take a good, long look at your life and refrain from posting for a bit.

[YUPPIE]

We've see how "prepared" all of those soldiers have been, and it hasn't been all that much, which is why they keep losing soldiers by the hundreds. We're way past B string and into G at this point.

I don't think readiness or training is at all a factor. This is kind of like a zombie apocalypse scenario if you get my drift. The zombies will cause harm by numbers even if they're slain. And they'll keep coming back.

[Dezerte]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ar-2022-12-23/

Apparently Putin used the term "war" for the first time to describe what is happening in Ukraine, breaking the very law he signed himself. It'll probably go nowhere, but it's interesting nonetheless.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

is it illegal to voice your support for - or endorse - Putin and Russia abroad, right now?

I've just noticed a slew of deportations or fines for (mainly Russians) people abroad. But a notable recent case is a woman who has a bounty on herself for encouraging her conscripted husband to rape as much as he can.

There's a lot of these crazy stories, but from what I've seen, they're mostly from those in-state than out of Russia. So I'm not sure what kind of penalties you can incur depending on where you are now for saying this shit abroad.

These are your examples? A woman encouraging her husband to commit war crimes and another woman living illegally in another country being deported for being a public nuissance? These are the "crazy stories"? This is the best you could do?

[Corvus]

The sealion has gone.

Meanwhile Gerasimov and russia are pretty much phoning it in now with their insane attempts at propaganda. His latest is that Ukraine was attempting nuclear terrorism and only russia could stop it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Gerashche...97762084950017

[Iphie]

The sealion has gone

What does this mean?

[Kaleredar]

What does this mean?

“Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.“

Sound like anyone recently sent on a forum vacation?

[callipygoustp]

In short (12/23/2022):

Wagner has just received fresh weapons and missiles from North Korea, illustrating the latter is still in this and an important ally to Russia. Considering North Korea is kept on a leash by China, does that in any way mean China is involved by proxy?

North Korea "kept on a leash by China"!!!

[Iphie]

“Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.“

Sound like anyone recently sent on a forum vacation?

aahh...right. I was actually aware of that meaning but I didn't connect it.

[Gorsameth]

Yeah yuppie is banned, again.

So we have some peace and quite for a little while.

[Lahis]

One of the big strategic plunders Putin did was starting this war when USA had Democrat president. Republicans are absolutely seething over the money being put into Ukraine. If Trump was still president, että Ukraine would have received none of the US support it had and Russia would be doing much better there right now.

[Kralljin]

One of the big strategic plunders Putin did was starting this war when USA had Democrat president. Republicans are absolutely seething over the money being put into Ukraine. If Trump was still president, että Ukraine would have received none of the US support it had and Russia would be doing much better there right now.

Hindsight is 20/20 but i think Putins scheme for some time has been to unravel the Western Alliance.

A lot of Right wing parties that gained traction during / after the refugeee crisis in 2015 often had ties to Russia, who also happened to be very critical of the EU.
Russia also had a hand in Brexit (which could've also severely damaged the EU if a knock on effect had actually happened).
Then there's the 2016 election.

Needless to say, Putin been working for quite some time undermining western unity, which was partially successful and if the worst case scenarios had come true (such as Trump having the US leave Nato) then he probably had an easier time.
But i think his initial ploy was largely one to rely on subterfuge, if EU had fallen apart, Nato goes defunct and the US turns isolationists (again), then nations like Ukraine couldn't turn towards anyone but Russia.
There would've been no need for an invasion because these nations could only realistically turn towards Russia for an alliance.

But i think after the Biden election he just believed (or hoped) that the western Alliance was brittle enough to shatter if he invades Ukraine, obviously successfully within 3 days as originally planned.
This entire thing could be seen as the stereotypical villain declaring "the time for subtlety has passed" after his schemes failed and now uses violence as last resort.

[Fugus]

One of the big strategic plunders Putin did was starting this war when USA had Democrat president. Republicans are absolutely seething over the money being put into Ukraine. If Trump was still president, että Ukraine would have received none of the US support it had and Russia would be doing much better there right now.

Putin was waiting for Trump to withdraw the US from NATO so that we wouldn’t be required to defend anyone at which point he could have invaded with not only less support for Ukraine then they are currently getting but Trump and some Republicans would have instead been offering support to Russia instead.

Let’s face it, Trump showed us just how close we are to going full fascist. If Trump had any intelligence to go with his ambition then at least 35% of the adults would have been full on goose stepping right now with many of our most intelligent being locked up on trumped up charges or killed as he solidified power while his base started establishing their caliphate with another 35% not caring and the last 30% preparing to peacefully protest against people who would violently kill them for it.

[Gorsameth]

One of the big strategic plunders Putin did was starting this war when USA had Democrat president. Republicans are absolutely seething over the money being put into Ukraine. If Trump was still president, että Ukraine would have received none of the US support it had and Russia would be doing much better there right now.

On the other hand Trump is wildly unpredictable at times. The 'wrong' person talks to him last and he publicly announced American troops are on route to Ukraine to defend them from Russia.

[Kallisto]

Hindsight is 20/20 but i think Putins scheme for some time has been to unravel the Western Alliance.

A lot of Right wing parties that gained traction during / after the refugeee crisis in 2015 often had ties to Russia, who also happened to be very critical of the EU.
Russia also had a hand in Brexit (which could've also severely damaged the EU if a knock on effect had actually happened).
Then there's the 2016 election.

Needless to say, Putin been working for quite some time undermining western unity, which was partially successful and if the worst case scenarios had come true (such as Trump having the US leave Nato) then he probably had an easier time.
But i think his initial ploy was largely one to rely on subterfuge, if EU had fallen apart, Nato goes defunct and the US turns isolationists (again), then nations like Ukraine couldn't turn towards anyone but Russia.
There would've been no need for an invasion because these nations could only realistically turn towards Russia for an alliance.

But i think after the Biden election he just believed (or hoped) that the western Alliance was brittle enough to shatter if he invades Ukraine, obviously successfully within 3 days as originally planned.
This entire thing could be seen as the stereotypical villain declaring "the time for subtlety has passed" after his schemes failed and now uses violence as last resort.

The thing is that if Putin had gone "Yeah just an exercise, back to bases." back in February and continued to do nothing actually overt then IMO NATO was on its way to falling apart. Republicans were pushing a more America-first agenda with or without Trump at the expense of the rest of NATO. Western Europe was pretty much ready to stop seeing Russia as any kind of threat. Many European countries had Russian-friendly groups or Russian-paid groups slipping into high enough places. Hell even areas of Ukraine were basically starting to have a meh view instead of a hostile view.

Biden being president may have spooked him into ending subtlety but in the end Biden was likely without the war ever going to be more than a 1 termer unless Trump went all in again and pushed enough voters away. But he's not the only one in the GQP who would have had nicer view towards Russia and turned the other way.

[Fugus]

On the other hand Trump is wildly unpredictable at times. The 'wrong' person talks to him last and he publicly announced American troops are on route to Ukraine to defend them from Russia.

Not a chance, Trump was actively cowering from Putin while secretly trying to get a tower there and had connections going back decades.

Trump wouldn’t turn on Putin, the man was actively holding regular meetings with him and making sure there was no records.

Putin was Trump’s handler.
@Kallisto

Part of me really thinks that Putin’s health is fading quick which was why he jumped the gun like he did. He wanted to do this before he was too messed up too.

He also thought he was in a better situation than he actually was. He over estimated his own military because he under estimated the corruption within their ranks he fostered, he thought he had more support in Ukraine than he really did and potentially thought he had a sleeper cell there ready when things popped off only to find out he had people who was just taking his money.

All while he surrounded himself with yes men and valued loyalty to him over their ability to do their jobs.

[Gorsameth]

The thing is that if Putin had gone "Yeah just an exercise, back to bases." back in February and continued to do nothing actually overt then IMO NATO was on its way to falling apart. Republicans were pushing a more America-first agenda with or without Trump at the expense of the rest of NATO. Western Europe was pretty much ready to stop seeing Russia as any kind of threat. Many European countries had Russian-friendly groups or Russian-paid groups slipping into high enough places. Hell even areas of Ukraine were basically starting to have a meh view instead of a hostile view.

Biden being president may have spooked him into ending subtlety but in the end Biden was likely without the war ever going to be more than a 1 termer unless Trump went all in again and pushed enough voters away. But he's not the only one in the GQP who would have had nicer view towards Russia and turned the other way.

Before the 2014 invasion of Crimea yes, but not after that. Lets not forget that Western nations were already helping the Ukrainian army with modern day training prior to the February invasion.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Let's be real, "Globalization" is almost certainly a concept invented by Putin's propaganda machine that just means "the globally spanning western alliance that prevents Russia from stealing half of the world's territories".

Russia does not respect borders, it actively seeks to annex and colonialize every single nation near its borders. And as it expands, more countries become "near its borders". The entire right wing movement of the last 20 years to dismantle western alliances painted as "globalist agenda" are incredibly beneficial to Putin, and nobody on the right cares, especially those in the US.

They'd hand over the entirety of Eurasia to Putin if it meant they got a border wall that migrants simply cut holes in.

[Corvus]

The rubble has lost like 17% value compared to the USD in the last couple of weeks, even with moscow pumping money in to artificially inflate it.

Now there are reports of problems with banks not allowing people to withdraw their own money.

https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/st...YYFKcFcaAqo8bw

Time for a bank run?

There are also reports that pootie is going to forcibly convert people's savings onto government bonds.