Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Edge-]

Man, why do these folks always get so triggered when they discover that people don't actually like them?

[jonnysensible]

ooof : https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...02529968132101

ukraine controls the night

[Kaleredar]

Tankies and vatniks posting their Ls. Love to see it.

The real fun part is that these are not actually “anti-war” people these are “let Russia do whatever they want” people. As if Russia was some inevitable force of nature and not a country wholly able to decide whether they want to wage war or not.

[Iphie]

Apparently China has had enough.

https://www.ft.com/content/e592033b-...3-17fa34c16009

(I don't know how to bypass the paywall but the link is provided for those who can or those who have a subscription)

China is going to renew relations with the West and move away from Russia, - Financial Times.

The publication, citing sources, reports that Vladimir Putin did not warn Chinese President Xi Jinping about the upcoming "special operation" - this allegedly affected relations with China and even led to the demotion of the Deputy Foreign Minister of China, who did not predict the actions of the Russian Federation.

The publication also claims that China "recognizes the likelihood of Russia's defeat in Ukraine", where Russia will emerge from the Ukrainian conflict "as a minor power with less political and economic influence on the world stage."

Quote is taken from another location which alleges to be the gist of the article.

[Slirith]

Apparently China has had enough.

https://www.ft.com/content/e592033b-...3-17fa34c16009

(I don't know how to bypass the paywall but the link is provided for those who can or those who have a subscription)



Quote is taken from another location which alleges to be the gist of the article.

Did they seriously demote a guy because he can't see the future?

[Iphie]

Did they seriously demote a guy because he can't see the future?

This is China...

In seriousness, it is kinda his job to have at least an inkling of what's going on and what is likely to happen in the near future.

[Corvus]

Did they seriously demote a guy because he can't see the future?

According to the article he got demoted because he was their russian expert and completely failed to realise this was going to be a full scale invasion. As a result China thought this was to be some minor operation.

[Edge-]

According to the article he got demoted because he was their russian expert and completely failed to realise this was going to be a full scale invasion. As a result China thought this was to be some minor operation.

In his defense, we are in the 11th month of the 3-day special operation.

[Belize]

According to the article he got demoted because he was their russian expert and completely failed to realise this was going to be a full scale invasion. As a result China thought this was to be some minor operation.

Well Putin does keep saying this is a 3 day operation.

The problem is that it's 3 *Russian* days which are only counted when Ivan isn't drunk and remembers to move the pin on the calendar to the next day. It's currently only been 2.

[Kaleredar]

Apparently China has had enough.

https://www.ft.com/content/e592033b-...3-17fa34c16009

(I don't know how to bypass the paywall but the link is provided for those who can or those who have a subscription)



Quote is taken from another location which alleges to be the gist of the article.

I know he's banned, but I still see him skulking around periodically:

@Shalcker How is your "alliance" with China working out, eh bud?

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According to the article he got demoted because he was their russian expert and completely failed to realise this was going to be a full scale invasion. As a result China thought this was to be some minor operation.

I mean, I guess it's a misread on his part if he said "There's absolutely no way Russia would be dumb enough to attempt a fullscale invasion of Ukraine."

[Corvus]

Russia's flagship oil is selling at just half the market value and well below the G7 cap. China and India are taking them to the cleaners.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pool-of-buyers

I think that may even below cost to produce.

They also had a $56 billion budget deficit last month which they were forced to cover with internal debt auctions. They are considering raising taxes and cutting services on top of that.

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-borrow...142815177.html

[Elder Millennial]

Galloway is still going? Huh, I though he died. Shame.

Shame? Shame requires a moral compass.

Imagine, Russia invades Ukraine, spends a year murdering Ukrainians, filling mass graves, committing mass rape and looting, annexes parts of the country after a fake referendum and your conclusion after all that is, "Nato bad."

I mean to make it even more basic.

Imagine looking at Bucha and concluding "Nato bad".

[zealo]

Shame? Shame requires a moral compass.

Imagine, Russia invades Ukraine, spends a year murdering Ukrainians, filling mass graves, committing mass rape and looting, annexes parts of the country after a fake referendum and your conclusion after all that is, "Nato bad."

I mean to make it even more basic.

Imagine looking at Bucha and concluding "Nato bad".

There's a reason Twitter gave him that "Russian state-affiliated media" tag. Dude used to be working for Sputnik and RT, which says it all really about his intentions.

[Deus Mortis]

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There are several methods of bypassing paywalls, the quickest is using https://12ft.io/, however places like the NYT it does not work on, when that happens I use https://archive.ph/.

[Nymrohd]

Did they seriously demote a guy because he can't see the future?

I'd assume because he presented such an invasion as improbable. Which many people did but they don't have access to the privileged information he did.

[Gorsameth]

Considering the rumours at the time, even before the invasion actually started, was that China pushed Russia to not invade during the Olympics I imagine he wasn't just demoted for not realising Russia might invade Ukraine but more likely for not realising the extend or not anticipating Russia might actually lose.

[Iphie]

Considering the rumours at the time, even before the invasion actually started, was that China pushed Russia to not invade during the Olympics I imagine he wasn't just demoted for not realising Russia might invade Ukraine but more likely for not realising the extend or not anticipating Russia might actually lose.

Possibly, but there is the chance that China actually tells the truth and that putin didn't inform them at all which, granted, russia is within its rights to do, sovereignty and all that. (Ironic, I know).

The Chinese may be in it for China but I still trust them to occasionally tell the truth as they know it to be, as opposed to russia which can tell me the sky is blue and I'll go out to verify it myself.

[Gorsameth]

Possibly, but there is the chance that China actually tells the truth and that putin didn't inform them at all which, granted, russia is within its rights to do, sovereignty and all that. (Ironic, I know).

The Chinese may be in it for China but I still trust them to tell the truth as they know it to be, as opposed to russia which can tell me the sky is blue and I'll go out to verify it myself.

Yeah no. China will absolutely lie to the outside world and its own people to protect the image of the ruling party.

[Corvus]

Will want to see confirmation, but reportedly Poland is going to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

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Ok, it seems that Poland will do so as part of an international coalition - basically placing the ball in Germany's court. If they agree then Poland will contribute.

[Voidism]

Could also be that pootler hinted about "something" and Xi asked for Olympics to get attention until then and this minister misread it.