Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Saradain]

Do you see Russia using nukes to take over Ukraine?
No. Same tactics can be used by Serbia. Take back what's ours not by nukes but by the fear of nukes.

Good luck for your dream, Serbia ain't gonna get shit "back".

And the moment Serbia suddenly gets nukes, is the moment when you'll see another NATO intervention to stop your people from genociding others...again.

And my friend, that will be less than 3 days "special military operation" and Serbia is pacified, perhaps permanently next time.

[Strange One]

Do you see Russia using nukes to take over Ukraine?
No. Same tactics can be used by Serbia. Take back what's ours not by nukes but by the fear of nukes.

Bow down to American nuclear superiority. Fear them.

That's what you sound like, but a weaker version.

[XDurionX]

This is a perfect opportunity for Serbia to take Kosovo back.
Russia should send a nuke to Serbia and Russian nukes in the middle of Europe would mean check-mate to the west and free road to Kosovo.

You should be on the front lines taking Kosovo "back" then, right? But you're just a coward with a very fragile masculinity.

[jonnysensible]

You should be on the front lines taking Kosovo "back" then, right? But you're just a coward with a very fragile masculinity.

classic reactionary diaspora. like turks who live in germany and vote erdogan or brits who live in spain and vote brexit.

guy sitting in his pants in one of the safest countries in the world sweden talking shit about starting wars and using nukes looool.

[zealo]

This is a perfect opportunity for Serbia to take Kosovo back.
Russia should send a nuke to Serbia and Russian nukes in the middle of Europe would mean check-mate to the west and free road to Kosovo.

If Serbia wants another go of NATO air power showing Belgrade what it's capable off, sure.

[Strange One]

You should be on the front lines taking Kosovo "back" then, right? But you're just a coward with a very fragile masculinity.

This pussy?@Strawberry You can assure he's held up somewhere where he knows he won't have to fight.

[XDurionX]

classic reactionary diaspora. like turks who live in germany and vote erdogan or brits who live in spain and vote brexit.

guy sitting in his pants in one of the safest countries in the world sweden talking shit about starting wars and using nukes looool.

Yeah, nationalists are assholes, but nationalist expats are even worse.

[Edge-]

Do you see Russia using nukes to take over Ukraine?

Take...over?

Sir, have you seen the news over the past 10 months? I realize that this was supposed to be a 3-day special operation and all, but a lot has happened since then!

[Gorsameth]

Do you see Russia using nukes to take over Ukraine?
No. Same tactics can be used by Serbia. Take back what's ours not by nukes but by the fear of nukes.

I missed have missed the memo where Russia actually won and didn't completely get its ass kicked by a proxy for the West.

[YUPPIE]

not really. the Russian strategy is to say to the west we are in this for the long haul are you really going to keep supporting ukraine?

probably until the Republicans and possibly Trump take over again, insofar as America goes.

It's already been pointed out Putin could be stalling for that time, and the war is projected to not end any time soon.

It should be noted a lot of the support for Ukraine is only because of the Biden administration. GOP members and right-wingers largely view Zelenksy in disdain.

[Iphie]

probably until the Republicans and possibly Trump take over again, insofar as America goes.

It's already been pointed out Putin could be stalling for that time, and the war is projected to not end any time soon.

It should be noted a lot of the support for Ukraine is only because of the Biden administration. GOP members and right-wingers largely view Zelenksy in disdain.

Ah, yes stalling, with such grand victories like in...Soledar... that's why the rumour mill is rife with rumours about Gerasimov needing to deliver by March, and so forth. Once Leopards and Challengers arrive it won't get easier to stall.

[YUPPIE]

Ah, yes stalling, with such grand victories like in...Soledar... that's why the rumour mill is rife with rumours about Gerasimov needing to deliver by March, and so forth. Once Leopards and Challengers arrive it won't get easier to stall.

Yeah stalling, or more bluntly, dragging it out. I think the expectations this war - upfront - will end before or by early 2024 are unrealistic.

[XDurionX]

Yeah stalling, or more bluntly, dragging it out. I think the expectations this war - upfront - will end before or by early 2024 are unrealistic.

The longer it takes, the more improbable a russian victory will be. Every delay is great for Ukraine.

[Strange One]

probably until the Republicans and possibly Trump take over again, insofar as America goes.

It's already been pointed out Putin could be stalling for that time, and the war is projected to not end any time soon.

It should be noted a lot of the support for Ukraine is only because of the Biden administration. GOP members and right-wingers largely view Zelenksy in disdain.

The entire world hates Russia, not just America.

Have you learnt to tie a noose? You should.


Infracted.

[YUPPIE]

Every delay is great for Ukraine.

Fuck no. Every delay or the longer this drags on, this keeps piling up.

There's nothing good about this dragging on for Ukraine. Because as you know, even if victory seems improbable to the Russians, they'll keep committing these atrocities for the sake of it.

[jonnysensible]

Fuck no. Every delay or the longer this drags on, this keeps piling up.

There's nothing good about this dragging on for Ukraine. Because as you know, even if victory seems improbable to the Russians, they'll keep committing these atrocities for the sake of it.

what choice do ukraine have but to fight on for victory until they have pushed russia out of their country?

[The Stormbringer]

Yeah, NATO should clarify that the will only halt entry for conflicts if those conflicts aren’t over their desire to enter NATO.

If a country is waging war to keep you out of NATO, that shouldn’t disqualify you from joining. NATO is a defensive pact to begin with.

That’s like having a group to protect abuse victims but one of the requirements is that you can’t be under the threat of abuse currently.

Personally, I think they (NATO) should let Ukraine join right now, and then move in and push Russia out of Ukraine, Crimea included.

[YUPPIE]

what choice do ukraine have but to fight on for victory until they have pushed russia out of their country?

yeah that's all they can do, fight on. But the dilemma is the war should end soon hypothetically (that there's nothing positive about a grind) but it evidently won't because of the tenacity and manpower of the Russians. By manpower, I mean they just keep spawning disposable fodder like locusts and there seem to be no signs they're running out.

It hasn't been mentioned often that Putin has recently been boasting of that all-out assault on Kyiv mentioned in December.

[Gorsameth]

Personally, I think they (NATO) should let Ukraine join right now, and then move in and push Russia out of Ukraine, Crimea included.

If they can't get Sweden and Finland in now past the Autocrats there is no way they get Ukraine in.

[DarkTZeratul]

Personally, I think they (NATO) should let Ukraine join right now, and then move in and push Russia out of Ukraine, Crimea included.

One of the requirements for joining NATO is you can't already be involved in an active military conflict at the time.