Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Corvus]

On the subject of superior Western tank tech, this is how impressive the gun stabilisers are on the Leopard.

[Elder Millennial]

If Russia falls apart peacefully, basically like Soviet Union

This is a misconception. The Soviet Union didn't fall apart peacefully. While the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine (in hindsight, the latter two examples are debateable) separated mostly freely, many of the Asian and Caucuses Republics went to war with each other almost immediately and Moldova and Georgia got pro-Russian breakaway regions and civil war/unrest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Soviet_conflicts

The Soviet collapse was anything but peaceful. Even Russia had a failed coup that was one bad day and one corrupt Defense Minister having a brief moment of conscience away from turning into a civil war.

The real concern is having various breakaway Republics with nukes, run by loons like Khadyrov, who might just end up nuking each other for some latent 300 year old ethnic conflict and an inability to agree on who makes better vodka and hates the gays more.

This is the problem with both the USSR and Russia. They weren't and aren't federated countries or supernational unions like the US or the EU. They were and are colonial empires where the borders, infrastructure, local politics, cultural and religious ties are not truly representative of the administrative structure the Russians imposed upon their empire.

The Ukraine war is in reality just a 18 to 20th century colonial war transplanted into the 21st century. The most striking parallels would probably be that of the Franco-Algerian war.

[YUPPIE]

That is exactly why Putin's life's goal is to restore that empire by reabsorbing all the former Soviet states and be remembered as the greatest Russian leader ever. Peter the Great 2.0 by his own words.

[Xyonai]

I'm wondering what Russia's response to this will be

I think it's against forum rules to just reply with meme images, so I'll type it out and you can imagine the shrugging old man:

"I guess I'll just die."

[YUPPIE]

Russia has further responded to the tanks being delivered, citing them it a foolish waste of money on the West's part, and that Russia will easily destroy them

Jan 25 (Reuters) - The Kremlin said on Wednesday that any Abrams battle tanks supplied to Ukraine by the United States would "burn", dismissing the expected delivery as an expensive folly.

U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday that Washington was poised to send dozens of its M1 Abrams battle tanks to Ukraine, reversing its previous position. The report comes after Germany looked set to send its Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine after initially resisting the request.

Speaking at a daily briefing with reporters, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that while the Abrams shipments were not confirmed, they would be a waste of money.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...rce=reddit.com

[Corvus]

Russia are down almost 1700 tanks confirmed lost, not to mention thousands of other vehicles, numerous planes, helicopters and ships, worth 10s of billions of dollars. Some of their missile waves have cost hundreds of millions.

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In less than a year, pootie has destroyed an energy business that took 3 generations to build.

https://archive.md/ugkWW

[postman1782]

Russia has further responded to the tanks being delivered, citing them it a foolish waste of money on the West's part, and that Russia will easily destroy them

Jan 25 (Reuters) - The Kremlin said on Wednesday that any Abrams battle tanks supplied to Ukraine by the United States would "burn", dismissing the expected delivery as an expensive folly.

U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday that Washington was poised to send dozens of its M1 Abrams battle tanks to Ukraine, reversing its previous position. The report comes after Germany looked set to send its Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine after initially resisting the request.

Speaking at a daily briefing with reporters, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that while the Abrams shipments were not confirmed, they would be a waste of money.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...rce=reddit.com

Russia can't even defend their own tanks, they are getting owned so easily, hell, do they even have an air force in that area anymore?

[Gabriel]

On the subject of superior Western tank tech, this is how impressive the gun stabilisers are on the Leopard.

Damn Germans and their beer...

[Corvus]

Damn Germans and their beer...

The Germans didn't realise 'hold my beer' was a saying, not an order.

[Kaleredar]

In less than a year, pootie has destroyed an energy business that took 3 generations to build.

https://archive.md/ugkWW

Early estimates predicted that this little foray into Ukraine would set Russia back a decade's worth of progress. And that estimate was formulated months ago. I can only imagine what that looks like now.

[Kallisto]

Damn Germans and their beer...

So the Ukrainians will have a choice of beer with Leopards, Tea with Challengers or whatever they put in Abrams.

[Corvus]

So the Ukrainians will have a choice of beer with Leopards, Tea with Challengers or whatever they put in Abrams.

Moonshine.

[Kaleredar]

Moonshine.

It doubles as backup fuel for the tanks in a pinch, I'm sure.

[Corvus]

It doubles as backup fuel for the tanks in a pinch, I'm sure.

I believe the Abram's can run on damn near anything if needed, but it isn't a good thing for it to do so.

[Breccia]

whatever they put in Abrams.

M830A1 rounds.

Don't worry -- we'll be putting those into Russian tanks, too.

[Elder Millennial]

Moonshine.

Mountain Dew.

[Iphie]

I refuse to believe that this is the state of russian rescue "technology".

[Forogil]

I refuse to believe that this is the state of russian rescue "technology".

It's almost back at the beginning - you could make a loop out of that!

[YUPPIE]

There was a lot to wake up to today morning. Russians (non-officials) abroad clamor for an all-out war with the West now, with some of them standing united at sports rallies like the Australian open, while Russian officials have escalated their rhetoric claiming that the West is now fully involved with the war.

Again though, all this has incited is disgust than fear.

[Kralljin]

I refuse to believe that this is the state of russian rescue "technology".

I mean, i get comparison between Nazi Germany and Russia, but the reliance on horses instead of mechanization is a bit of a surprise.