Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Saradain]

This sentence bothers me beyond everything. My family involuntary immigrated to South America from Africa as a result of colonisation, and now these countries are walking into neo colonisation by russia, willingly because of hatred of the west. It is beyond insane.

And all their natural resources scoured by Wagner...

Hatred can truly blind you, it seems. Can't really say that chinese or russian colonisation is gonna be any better in the long run...

[YUPPIE]

You know that Neo-Nazi warrior that held to claim an alleged Ukrainian's skull and demanded genocide against all of them, the one mentioned recently a few pages ago?

He's officially dead now.

[Shadowferal]

You don’t even realise you’re being mocked, do you?

Lol! I was thinking the same.

[Kallisto]

This sentence bothers me beyond everything. My family involuntary immigrated to South America from Africa as a result of colonisation, and now these countries are walking into neo colonisation by russia, willingly because of hatred of the west. It is beyond insane.

It's a historical thing. The Soviet Union for their own goals funded and supplied many independence movements in Africa. The leaders are still at least luke warm towards Moscow. With Britain and France helping Ukraine Moscow is able to go "Look at what your former slave masters are doing. Help us hurt them." while getting a ton of mineral rights.

All the while the average citizen still suffers from corruption and oppression from these rulers

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You know that Neo-Nazi warrior that held to claim an alleged Ukrainian's skull and demanded genocide against all of them, the one mentioned recently a few pages ago?

He's officially dead now.

Executed at a Russian check point. How fitting

[Gabriel]

Executed at a Russian check point. How fitting

Well hey, they went there to kill Nazis.

[Iphie]

It's a historical thing. The Soviet Union for their own goals funded and supplied many independence movements in Africa. The leaders are still at least luke warm towards Moscow. With Britain and France helping Ukraine Moscow is able to go "Look at what your former slave masters are doing. Help us hurt them." while getting a ton of mineral rights.

All the while the average citizen still suffers from corruption and oppression from these rulers

I know, and to an extent I understand the underlying sentiment, but that doesn't make it any better. (The USSR obviously wanted to export the revolution and to make life for the west difficult, and vice versa.)

[ArcanaXVIII]

Lol! I was thinking the same.

I really don't know what I was expecting. Truely à r/whoosh moment.

On another note, Zelensky is here in Paris tonight meeting with Macron and Scholtz is also coming here to meet him. Looks like a really productive European tour.

[YUPPIE]

Is Putin legally banned from leaving Russia? And no, because of nukes and perceived standards, no one is going to murder him or even try to arrest him. All they've said of this is he's a "pariah"

I'm wondering why he doesn't attend these summits or meetings Zelenksy does. Nothing seems to technically be officially barring him from doing so.

After hearing the speech today, I had an imagination where Putin suddenly bursts into the scene and starts objecting and trying to instigate an argument with Zelenksy.

[Kallisto]

Is Putin legally banned from leaving Russia? And no, because of nukes and perceived standards, no one is going to murder him or even try to arrest him. All they've said of this is he's a "pariah"

I'm wondering why he doesn't attend these summits or meetings Zelenksy does. Nothing seems to technically be officially barring him from doing so.

After hearing the speech today, I had an imagination where Putin suddenly bursts into the scene and starts objecting and trying to instigate an argument with Zelenksy.

Seriously with the amount of insane stuff you post and your admittance that you drink far too much. Are you Medvedev? Did the former Russian president find their way onto this forum?

[YUPPIE]

Seriously with the amount of insane stuff you post and your admittance that you drink far too much. Are you Medvedev? Did the former Russian president find their way onto this forum?

I know you might take that as some kind of a joke, but I'm not joking be rest assured.

I have only recently gotten out of the mistaken belief that some official is going to kill or let alone do anything to Putin if he dares leave his confine. He's actually free to go anywhere he wants.

So why doesn't he attend any summits? I just really want to see him interact with Zelenksy.

[Gorsameth]

I know you might take that as some kind of a joke, but I'm not joking be rest assured.

I have only recently gotten out of the mistaken belief that some official is going to kill or let alone do anything to Putin if he dares leave his confine. He's actually free to go anywhere he wants.

So why doesn't he attend any summits? I just really want to see him interact with Zelenksy.

Your legit asking why Putin doesn't just walk up and break into a French government building?

The video of Putin being forced to the ground by a dogpile of guards while his security detail is gunned down would be glorious to see.

[Kallisto]

Your legit asking why Putin doesn't just walk up and break into a French government building?

The video of Putin being forced to the ground by a dogpile of guards while his security detail is gunned down would be glorious to see.

I'm just trying to figure out how he'd get into French airspace.

Yuppie trying to ask though why a leader wouldn't enter a nation that's hostile to his actions is hilarious if it wasn't some kind of sea lioning.

[YUPPIE]

Your legit asking why Putin doesn't just walk up and break into a French government building?

Not "break into." He was invited to G2 before, anyway. I just assume national leaders and foreign dignitaries have the ability to visit any country they want if they have a reason to be there.

[Calfredd]

Not "break into." He was invited to G2 before, anyway. I just assume national leaders and foreign dignitaries have the ability to visit any country they want if they have a reason to be there.

Just like how I'm allowed to visit your house for whatever reason without you inviting me first.

[YUPPIE]

Just like how I'm allowed to visit your house for whatever reason without you inviting me first.

not the same logic but okay.

I mean if you people want to object to the logic, it's fine since it's purely hypothetical. But after hearing today's speech, there is almost nothing more I want to see than Zelenksy meet Putin face-to-face.

[Gorsameth]

Not "break into." He was invited to G2 before, anyway. I just assume national leaders and foreign dignitaries have the ability to visit any country they want if they have a reason to be there.

Yes break into. He is not invited now. Being invited last year doesn't count. And if he gets there the guards will tell him he is not welcome. Still trying to enter at that point is trespassing.

No national leaders and foreign dignitaries do not have the ability to visit any country they feel like whenever they fancy it... Where the fuck do you get these dumb idea's?
They are invited or ask if they are welcome, they don't just randomly show up.

[Calfredd]

not the same logic but okay.

I mean if you people want to object to the logic, it's fine since it's purely hypothetical. But after hearing today's speech, there is almost nothing more I want to see than Zelenksy meet Putin face-to-face.

It is the same logic.

[YUPPIE]

Just think about the sides of the coin these two men are living on and why it'd be interesting to see them interact.

One is cheered on with every step he makes (not hyperbole) and is literally viewed as one of the greatest modern heroes.

The other has people chanting for his death every day, his supporters are seen as insane and ostracized, and he is viewed as one of the most evil men walking now.

[Calfredd]

Just think about the sides of the coin these two men are living on and why it'd be interesting to see them interact.

One is cheered on with every step he makes (not hyperbole) and is literally viewed as one of the greatest modern heroes.

The other has people chanting for his death every day, his supporters are seen as insane and ostracized, and he is viewed as one of the most evil men walking now.

That's nice Billy, good for you, but what has any of this have to do with the price of tea in China?

[YUPPIE]

The international team investigating the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) by a missile has convincing evidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally signed off on a decision to allow the Russian missile system into Ukraine, Dutch prosecutors said on Wednesday.

The BUK-TELAR missile system was used to shoot down MH17 on its way from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, investigators said.

However, they said the evidence was not enough to lead to prosecution.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-730942