Russian invasion of Ukraine

[YUPPIE]

I very much realise this will likely be too much for your braincell (yes, singular) to handle, but even if the missiles went over moldova, you realise there isn’t some rulebook saying moldova therefore now has to join the war, right?

That's a moot point because Moldova collapsed today. Also, I was mainly referring to Romania and NATO joining the fight

[Veggie50]

That's a moot point because Moldova collapsed today.

…it very much did not my dear Rusbot.

It’s government fell, the country didnt collapse. Big difference.

[Edge-]

That's a moot point because Moldova collapsed today. Also, I was mainly referring to Romania and NATO joining the fight

The prime minister stepped down, but I know you never miss an opportunity for a hyperbolic response.

[zealo]

That's a moot point because Moldova collapsed today. Also, I was mainly referring to Romania and NATO joining the fight

I think you and the rest of the world have different definitions of what "collapsed" means, given how you omitted to include the word government after Moldova there, likely intentionally.

[YUPPIE]

It’s government fell, the country.

Its government, which was pro-EU and pro-West as a whole - amidst Russian cyber attacks and destabilization. Moldova’s pro-Western government resigned amid the worsening economic fallout from the war in neighboring Ukraine, a day after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that Russia was trying to destabilize the country. Announcing her decision Friday, Moldovan Prime Minister Natalia Gavrilita told a news briefing in the capital Chisinau that no one could have predicted the scale of the challenges her government has faced since the Russian invasion began nearly a year ago.

I'm surprised people aren't more worried about Moldova right now. Ukrainians are worried, no doubt, but not too much around these parts. This is the culmination of Russia threatening it for months on end.

[Kallisto]

I'm surprised people aren't more worried about Moldova right now. Ukrainians are worried, no doubt, but not too much around these parts. This is the culmination of Russia threatening it for months on end.

What is Russia going to do, use its 2k army that's not even suppliable in Transnistria to march into the rest of Moldova? Which I should add among its old Soviet equipment also US-made equipment, was becoming more armed in the past year and has a larger military that likely has had some western training in the past year? Plus Moldovans speak Romanian so Romanian volunteers with military training could easily be there within a moment to help if need be.

Zelensky is either using bad intel from his guys (Likely) or is trying to use the situation to his advantage to get jets from NATO (Possible but less likely).

The fact that there aren't almost constant missiles crossing Moldova and many more accidentally falling into NATO countries is actually showing that Russia is still at the time doing everything to not expand this war, which granted could change at any moment too, but if it is it isn't a whoops our missile went off course briefly. Even during the bombing of Serbia NATO wasn't this careful with missiles falling into Bulgaria (At the time not a NATO country) with better guidance systems.

As for Moldovan government collapsing, yeah it happens in a parliamentary Democracy, another government of the same party could be sworn in or a new vote happens. These are features of the system not flaws.

[YUPPIE]

What is Russia going to do, use its 2k army that's not even suppliable in Transnistria to march into the rest of Moldova?

no, that's what I thought they were going to do before.

But now it's clear they're just subverting their democratic government from the inside out. Like the GOP and cyberattack stuff you saw posted a few scrolls up. This is what Russia ultimately does when their threats of upfront violence aren't genuine, they weaken governments and install Kremlin agents or sycophants. It's what they were doing in Crimea as well.

They're fucking everywhere.

[Joszef Kiprich]

YUPPIE, stop stalling and give us those numbers of the alledged 1 billion deaths.

[Edge-]

They're fucking everywhere.

Check your closet and under your bed, WAGNER COULD BE THERE

[Gorsameth]

Moldova names new pro-EU prime minister after government falls amid Russian pressure

Am I missing something?

Yes, the notion that Yuppie is an idiot who's only purpose is life is hyping up the end of civilization.


Infracted.

[YUPPIE]

Am I missing something?

Just because that person is sworn in, it doesn't invalidate the threat Russia poses to democracy in Moldova's government.

Here's a full article I cite from regarding their cyber and political attacks this year

[Flarelaine]

Macron says jets are not a priority for him.

The Times on this:

[Veggie50]

Just because that person is sworn in, it doesn't invalidate the threat Russia poses to democracy in Moldova's government.

Here's a full article I cite from regarding their cyber and political attacks this year

Nothing invalidates russias fearsomeness in your eyes. That’s ok, not everyone can have balls.

[Flarelaine]

no, that's what I thought they were going to do before.

But now it's clear they're just subverting their democratic government from the inside out. Like the GOP and cyberattack stuff you saw posted a few scrolls up. This is what Russia ultimately does when their threats of upfront violence aren't genuine, they weaken governments and install Kremlin agents or sycophants. It's what they were doing in Crimea as well.

They're fucking everywhere.

Tone down on the scaremongering. Other posters in the thread are capable of rational discussion whereas your posts overwhelmingly seem to aim to elicit emotional responses. While you have your right to your opinion, baiting for feels is not constructive.

[Gorsameth]

Yuppie gets to scream and shout bullshit constantly and mods do nothing but if you dare to call it out you get infracted?

gg MMO-C

[Corvus]

russia's winter offensive really has kicked off - just with not a lot to show for it besides lots of dead russians.

They keep throwing themselves at Vuhledar with no results. Among the latest casualties is the CO of a Spetnatz Brigade. Not content with using mercenaries, mobiks, marines and VVS in human wave attack, they are now throwing their special forces into human wave attacks. And they are faring no better. Can you imagine any Western nation throwing their special forces away in such a useless manner?

Oh, and while this is going on a Vuhledar, the same is happening at Avdiivka, which russia has been trying to take since day 1 on the war. Recent attack there have cost them 7 tanks and 30 BMPs and up to 3 companies wiped out according to russian sources.

[YUPPIE]

russia's winter offensive really has kicked off - just with not a lot to show for it besides lots of dead Russians.

They keep throwing themselves at Vuhledar with no results. Among the latest casualties is the CO of a Spetnatz Brigade. Not content with using mercenaries, mobiks, marines and VVS in human wave attack, they are now throwing their special forces into human wave attacks. And they are faring no better. Can you imagine any Western nation throwing their special forces away in such a useless manner?
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I did say before their plan was to just to overwhelm with sheer numbers and this is pretty much what was expected; what will continue. People couldn't believe the idea Russians would just throw themselves on-foot in human wave attacks.

But you didn't mention that for all their human wave attacks, the humans on-foot are being supported by massive flashy missile strikes and more Iranian support.

On February 10, the enemy launched a massive missile attack on the critical infrastructure of Ukraine.
From the air, the enemy attacked with eight Tu-95ms strategic bombers, which launched Kh-101 and Kh-555 missiles from the Caspian Sea and Volgodonsk regions.
From the ships in the Black Sea - with Kalibr-type sea-based cruise missiles.

As of 11:30 a.m., the enemy launched 71 Kh-101, Kh-555, and Caliber cruise missiles (including night launches).

The forces and means of air defense of the Air Force and other components of the Defense Forces of Ukraine destroyed 61 enemy cruise missiles and 5 kamikaze drones "Shahed-136/131", which were reported earlier.

According to Ukrainian officials, they claim they have shot down 61 of 71 cruise missiles.

[Iphie]

russia's winter offensive really has kicked off - just with not a lot to show for it besides lots of dead russians.

They keep throwing themselves at Vuhledar with no results. Among the latest casualties is the CO of a Spetnatz Brigade. Not content with using mercenaries, mobiks, marines and VVS in human wave attack, they are now throwing their special forces into human wave attacks. And they are faring no better. Can you imagine any Western nation throwing their special forces away in such a useless manner?

Oh, and while this is going on a Vuhledar, the same is happening at Avdiivka, which russia has been trying to take since day 1 on the war. Recent attack there have cost them 7 tanks and 30 BMPs and up to 3 companies wiped out according to russian sources.

How big are russian companies? I think Western companies range from 80-250 men...

[Corvus]

Everyone believed that russia was going to throw human waves at defenders - it is what they have always done. I have no idea where you get this idea nobody thought they would do it.

The only difference is that only you think it would actually work. Modern technology has rendered it obsolete. As the results at Vuhledar and Avdiikva have shown.

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How big are russian companies? I think Western companies range from 80-250 men...

Similar size, if at full strength. But none of these are going to be at full strength.

[Lynarii]

I did say before their plan was to just to overwhelm with sheer numbers and this is pretty much what was expected; what will continue. People couldn't believe the idea Russians would just throw themselves on-foot in human wave attacks.

This is a straight up lie. We all believed that they WOULD do it, we just also realize that it isn't a very effective tactic in modern warfare without the kind of logistical support that Russia has yet to display in this entire conflict. You seem to have zero comprehension of how difficult it is to get food and water to 500,000 troops if they're sitting in one place, much less if you want to move them somewhere. And you need to solve this problem every single day, because any soldier that goes even a single day with nothing to eat or drink is going to be a mess.

It's a big scary sounding number, but its made up of actual living people who have needs and morale, not a zombie horde that can be pointed a direction and will just shuffle that way until they're all shot.

And so far we've been right. For all that big scary number, it's started, and Kiev still stands. They have, so far, been unable to translate the numbers into real tangible gains of note.