Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Lynarii]

Logic like that isn't really applied to Russians, as you can see with today's aforementioned tank disaster (i.e, their sense of reasoning).

Warning: Nothing graphic or particularly NSFW, but still live combat footage.

Again. It's not logic or reasoning. It's like trying to threaten a car into driving without any gas in the tank. It. Can. Not. Happen. The fact that you think the Russians are all some sort of superhuman magic entities that do not require food or drink to live is absolutely bonkers insane, and really has no business in any discussion of events happening on Earth.

[YUPPIE]

Again. It's not logic or reasoning. It's like trying to threaten a car into driving without any gas in the tank. It. Can. Not. Happen. The fact that you think the Russians are all some sort of superhuman magic entities that do not require food or drink to live is absolutely bonkers insane, and really has no business in any discussion of events happening on Earth.

never implied that. I think the Russians will lose, as I've stated many times before. This offensive will fail. We're all only mildly surprised they went through with their bold assault anyway

I just want to know what happens when it does fail and they have to report to Putin about the loss. That is all.

[Gabriel]

I did say before their plan was to just to overwhelm with sheer numbers and this is pretty much what was expected; what will continue. People couldn't believe the idea Russians would just throw themselves on-foot in human wave attacks.

But you didn't mention that for all their human wave attacks, the humans on-foot are being supported by massive flashy missile strikes and more Iranian support.

On February 10, the enemy launched a massive missile attack on the critical infrastructure of Ukraine.
From the air, the enemy attacked with eight Tu-95ms strategic bombers, which launched Kh-101 and Kh-555 missiles from the Caspian Sea and Volgodonsk regions.
From the ships in the Black Sea - with Kalibr-type sea-based cruise missiles.

As of 11:30 a.m., the enemy launched 71 Kh-101, Kh-555, and Caliber cruise missiles (including night launches).

The forces and means of air defense of the Air Force and other components of the Defense Forces of Ukraine destroyed 61 enemy cruise missiles and 5 kamikaze drones "Shahed-136/131", which were reported earlier.

According to Ukrainian officials, they claim they have shot down 61 of 71 cruise missiles.

YOU didn't believe. YOU thought Russia has some super secret yet-unused stores of equipment and vehicles they will suddenly throw at Ukraine. YOU were wrong.

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I just want to know what happens when it does fail and they have to report to Putin about the loss. That is all.

Putin will tell the commanders to send in more soldiers and the commanders will send in more soldiers. This will continue until one of the commanders administers Putin 8 grams of lead to the brain.

[YUPPIE]

YOU didn't believe. YOU thought Russia has some super secret yet-unused stores of equipment and vehicles they will suddenly throw at Ukraine. YOU were wrong.

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Putin will tell the commanders to send in more soldiers and the commanders will send in more soldiers. This will continue until one of the commanders administers Putin 8 grams of lead to the brain.

1) I mean to be fair, about yesterday before the all-out assault formally began, they pulled out those mentioned number of tanks and jets and etc out of nowhere.

Related though, half a day into Russia's all-out final assault, things are not looking good on the Vulhedar front as Russians have been shown on live-footage being massacred and mined to death. They've lost a lot of tanks already.

[Azadina]

never implied that. I think the Russians will lose, as I've stated many times before. This offensive will fail. We're all only mildly surprised they went through with their bold assault anyway

I just want to know what happens when it does fail and they have to report to Putin about the loss. That is all.

Tell us what will happen? Is it the N word you're looking for?

[Gabriel]

1) I mean to be fair, about yesterday before the all-out assault formally began, they pulled out those mentioned number of tanks and jets and etc out of their ass.

Fixed that for you. Stop believing anything that comes out of russia.

Related though, half a day into Russia's all-out final assault, things are not looking good on the Vulhedar front as Russians have been shown on live-footage being massacred and mined to death. They've lost a lot of tanks already.

Its not going to be the final assault. They will continue doing this until russia stops existing.

[YUPPIE]

Tell us what will happen? Is it the N word you're looking for?

I don't know, but it won't be like what Gabriel hopes for. No one is going to ever get near killing Putin, let alone from a military man. But eventually, they are going to have to report bad news to a man unwilling to accept anything but absolute victory and has even set a deadline (March).

On February 22th, Putin even plans to host another pop concert of things supposedly going very well for the Russians, himself attending unless you believe in those body double stories.

[Iphie]

Fixed that for you. Stop believing anything that comes out of russia.

It was actually Ukraine which published those numbers, not russia. But yeah, otherwise don't trust anything-

[YUPPIE]

Its not going to be the final assault.

With 500k men dead, almost five times the 180k estimated deaths over a year, along with all the tanks and shit they've mounted for this assault, I'm pretty confident this will be Russia's last major offensive should they lose. Mainly based on the fact Ukraine can bolster their defenses over summer even further so that a comeback will be insurmountable for the Russians.

[Shadowferal]

Russia's blitz Feb 24 of last year was supposed to end Ukraine in a few days..

[Gabriel]

With 500k men dead, almost five times the 180k estimated deaths over a year, along with all the tanks and shit they've mounted for this assault, I'm pretty confident this will be Russia's last major offensive should they lose. Mainly based on the fact Ukraine can bolster their defenses over summer even further so that a comeback will be insurmountable for the Russians.

Never underestimate the willingness of russians to die for their dictator.

[YUPPIE]

Bad news for the Russian side:

According to combat footage and intel from last night, Vulhedar was an absolute bloodbath for the Russian side of things. They went all-in on the human wave tactics and pretty much all of them died. Snow is caked with blood and gore right now, which I won't show.

The Ukrainians allegedly fired off so many bullets their trenches are difficult to navigate due to the shellings flooding them.

[Gabriel]

This is my shocked face.

[Corvus]

We've mentioned Vulhedar a few times of late, mostly as an example of just why human wave attacks just don't work anymore. And its not mobiks or Wagner prisoners there that are getting chewed up - its the so called elite of the russian army, the marines and spetsnaz.

Oh, and UK intel is saying the vast majority of the russian mobiks called up are already in the combat zone. There isn't an army already in the wings ready to go. Its already there. They are also saying that russian leadership is faced with the choices of further depleting its forces, scaling back its objectives or having to go through another round of mobilisation.

[YUPPIE]

so no sightings of Belarusians or Africans, yet?

[Saradain]

so no sightings of Belarusians or Africans, yet?

I'm sure few african madmen will be the thing that changes everything. In a dreamland anyway, where they'd actually appear. Where's the Bender laughing meme when you need it?

[Santti]

so no sightings of Belarusians or Africans, yet?

I doubt there is going to be any Africans. At best, a couple of volunteers outside of active combat. Which, yeah, won't change anything.

This war is not very popular in Belarus, and they are fighting on both sides.

[Iphie]

I doubt there is going to be any Africans. At best, a couple of volunteers outside of active combat. Which, yeah, won't change anything.

This war is not very popular in Belarus, and they are fighting on both sides.

A few Africans have shown up, mostly illegally pressed into service or prisoners and their families and embassies got a bit annoyed when they turned into patches of sunflower fertilizer.

[Santti]

A few Africans have shown up, mostly illegally pressed into service or prisoners and their families and embassies got a bit annoyed when they turned into patches of sunflower fertilizer.

Oh yeah, Africans that were already in Russia. Didn't think of those. Pretty sure Yuppie was talking about Russia getting actual military aid from the African countries, like Mali. Which sounds all kinds of implausible to me.

[Iphie]

Yeah, that's pretty unlikely.