Russian invasion of Ukraine

[YUPPIE]

Tell us what will happen? Is it the N word you're looking for?

I don't know, but it won't be like what Gabriel hopes for. No one is going to ever get near killing Putin, let alone from a military man. But eventually, they are going to have to report bad news to a man unwilling to accept anything but absolute victory and has even set a deadline (March).

On February 22th, Putin even plans to host another pop concert of things supposedly going very well for the Russians, himself attending unless you believe in those body double stories.

[Iphie]

Fixed that for you. Stop believing anything that comes out of russia.

It was actually Ukraine which published those numbers, not russia. But yeah, otherwise don't trust anything-

[YUPPIE]

Its not going to be the final assault.

With 500k men dead, almost five times the 180k estimated deaths over a year, along with all the tanks and shit they've mounted for this assault, I'm pretty confident this will be Russia's last major offensive should they lose. Mainly based on the fact Ukraine can bolster their defenses over summer even further so that a comeback will be insurmountable for the Russians.

[Shadowferal]

Russia's blitz Feb 24 of last year was supposed to end Ukraine in a few days..

[Gabriel]

With 500k men dead, almost five times the 180k estimated deaths over a year, along with all the tanks and shit they've mounted for this assault, I'm pretty confident this will be Russia's last major offensive should they lose. Mainly based on the fact Ukraine can bolster their defenses over summer even further so that a comeback will be insurmountable for the Russians.

Never underestimate the willingness of russians to die for their dictator.

[YUPPIE]

Bad news for the Russian side:

According to combat footage and intel from last night, Vulhedar was an absolute bloodbath for the Russian side of things. They went all-in on the human wave tactics and pretty much all of them died. Snow is caked with blood and gore right now, which I won't show.

The Ukrainians allegedly fired off so many bullets their trenches are difficult to navigate due to the shellings flooding them.

[Gabriel]

This is my shocked face.

[Corvus]

We've mentioned Vulhedar a few times of late, mostly as an example of just why human wave attacks just don't work anymore. And its not mobiks or Wagner prisoners there that are getting chewed up - its the so called elite of the russian army, the marines and spetsnaz.

Oh, and UK intel is saying the vast majority of the russian mobiks called up are already in the combat zone. There isn't an army already in the wings ready to go. Its already there. They are also saying that russian leadership is faced with the choices of further depleting its forces, scaling back its objectives or having to go through another round of mobilisation.

[YUPPIE]

so no sightings of Belarusians or Africans, yet?

[Saradain]

so no sightings of Belarusians or Africans, yet?

I'm sure few african madmen will be the thing that changes everything. In a dreamland anyway, where they'd actually appear. Where's the Bender laughing meme when you need it?

[Santti]

so no sightings of Belarusians or Africans, yet?

I doubt there is going to be any Africans. At best, a couple of volunteers outside of active combat. Which, yeah, won't change anything.

This war is not very popular in Belarus, and they are fighting on both sides.

[Iphie]

I doubt there is going to be any Africans. At best, a couple of volunteers outside of active combat. Which, yeah, won't change anything.

This war is not very popular in Belarus, and they are fighting on both sides.

A few Africans have shown up, mostly illegally pressed into service or prisoners and their families and embassies got a bit annoyed when they turned into patches of sunflower fertilizer.

[Santti]

A few Africans have shown up, mostly illegally pressed into service or prisoners and their families and embassies got a bit annoyed when they turned into patches of sunflower fertilizer.

Oh yeah, Africans that were already in Russia. Didn't think of those. Pretty sure Yuppie was talking about Russia getting actual military aid from the African countries, like Mali. Which sounds all kinds of implausible to me.

[Iphie]

Yeah, that's pretty unlikely.

[YUPPIE]

Yevgeny Prigozhin, Putin's top man and Wagner founder, expresses some doubt in his conviction to take Bakhmut despite citing it as the most important objective.

[Iphie]

Yevgeny Prigozhin, Putin's top man and Wagner founder, expresses some doubt in his conviction to take Bakhmut despite citing it as the most important objective.

That's actually interesting, after having spent so much effort trying to take Bakhmut just giving up seems uncharacteristic. I would propose that the prig is just passing a poison pill to the russian MoD. Let them choke on it.

[YUPPIE]

In comments apparently aimed at Russia’s defense establishment, Prigozhin complained in January about “infighting, corruption, bureaucracy and officials who want to stay in their positions”, as well as what he called constant attempts to “steal victory” from Wagner.

So this guy is evil like the devil, but why does he sound almost rational here? Sounds like a mess internally in Russia.

[Iphie]

In comments apparently aimed at Russia’s defense establishment, Prigozhin complained in January about “infighting, corruption, bureaucracy and officials who want to stay in their positions”, as well as what he called constant attempts to “steal victory” from Wagner.

So this guy is evil like the devil, but why does he sound almost rational here? Sounds like a mess internally in Russia.

Evil=/= irrational. And yes, russian internal politics are a big mess.

[YUPPIE]

Evil=/= irrational

I mean, Putin himself thinks he's winning and won't hear anything otherwise. In the context of what's going on, that's irrational insanity.

You'd think his head honcho wouldn't be saying things this pessimistic and think more like he does.

[qwerty123456]

SpaceX just recently said it has been limiting Ukraines use of Starlink.

Russia's blitz Feb 24 of last year was supposed to end Ukraine in a few days..

People misunderstood the whole 3 days thing. The actual 3rd day of the 3 day war is Feb 22 2109.