1. #28841
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Lol! I was thinking the same.
    I really don't know what I was expecting. Truely à r/whoosh moment.

    On another note, Zelensky is here in Paris tonight meeting with Macron and Scholtz is also coming here to meet him. Looks like a really productive European tour.

  2. #28842
    Is Putin legally banned from leaving Russia? And no, because of nukes and perceived standards, no one is going to murder him or even try to arrest him. All they've said of this is he's a "pariah"

    I'm wondering why he doesn't attend these summits or meetings Zelenksy does. Nothing seems to technically be officially barring him from doing so.

    After hearing the speech today, I had an imagination where Putin suddenly bursts into the scene and starts objecting and trying to instigate an argument with Zelenksy.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  3. #28843
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Is Putin legally banned from leaving Russia? And no, because of nukes and perceived standards, no one is going to murder him or even try to arrest him. All they've said of this is he's a "pariah"

    I'm wondering why he doesn't attend these summits or meetings Zelenksy does. Nothing seems to technically be officially barring him from doing so.

    After hearing the speech today, I had an imagination where Putin suddenly bursts into the scene and starts objecting and trying to instigate an argument with Zelenksy.
    Seriously with the amount of insane stuff you post and your admittance that you drink far too much. Are you Medvedev? Did the former Russian president find their way onto this forum?

  4. #28844
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Seriously with the amount of insane stuff you post and your admittance that you drink far too much. Are you Medvedev? Did the former Russian president find their way onto this forum?
    I know you might take that as some kind of a joke, but I'm not joking be rest assured.

    I have only recently gotten out of the mistaken belief that some official is going to kill or let alone do anything to Putin if he dares leave his confine. He's actually free to go anywhere he wants.

    So why doesn't he attend any summits? I just really want to see him interact with Zelenksy.
    Last edited by YUPPIE; 2023-02-08 at 10:47 PM.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  5. #28845
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I know you might take that as some kind of a joke, but I'm not joking be rest assured.

    I have only recently gotten out of the mistaken belief that some official is going to kill or let alone do anything to Putin if he dares leave his confine. He's actually free to go anywhere he wants.

    So why doesn't he attend any summits? I just really want to see him interact with Zelenksy.
    Your legit asking why Putin doesn't just walk up and break into a French government building?

    The video of Putin being forced to the ground by a dogpile of guards while his security detail is gunned down would be glorious to see.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  6. #28846
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Your legit asking why Putin doesn't just walk up and break into a French government building?

    The video of Putin being forced to the ground by a dogpile of guards while his security detail is gunned down would be glorious to see.
    I'm just trying to figure out how he'd get into French airspace.

    Yuppie trying to ask though why a leader wouldn't enter a nation that's hostile to his actions is hilarious if it wasn't some kind of sea lioning.

  7. #28847
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Your legit asking why Putin doesn't just walk up and break into a French government building?
    Not "break into." He was invited to G2 before, anyway. I just assume national leaders and foreign dignitaries have the ability to visit any country they want if they have a reason to be there.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  8. #28848
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Not "break into." He was invited to G2 before, anyway. I just assume national leaders and foreign dignitaries have the ability to visit any country they want if they have a reason to be there.
    Just like how I'm allowed to visit your house for whatever reason without you inviting me first.

  9. #28849
    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Just like how I'm allowed to visit your house for whatever reason without you inviting me first.
    not the same logic but okay.

    I mean if you people want to object to the logic, it's fine since it's purely hypothetical. But after hearing today's speech, there is almost nothing more I want to see than Zelenksy meet Putin face-to-face.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  10. #28850
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Not "break into." He was invited to G2 before, anyway. I just assume national leaders and foreign dignitaries have the ability to visit any country they want if they have a reason to be there.
    Yes break into. He is not invited now. Being invited last year doesn't count. And if he gets there the guards will tell him he is not welcome. Still trying to enter at that point is trespassing.

    No national leaders and foreign dignitaries do not have the ability to visit any country they feel like whenever they fancy it... Where the fuck do you get these dumb idea's?
    They are invited or ask if they are welcome, they don't just randomly show up.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  11. #28851
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    not the same logic but okay.

    I mean if you people want to object to the logic, it's fine since it's purely hypothetical. But after hearing today's speech, there is almost nothing more I want to see than Zelenksy meet Putin face-to-face.
    It is the same logic.

  12. #28852
    Just think about the sides of the coin these two men are living on and why it'd be interesting to see them interact.

    One is cheered on with every step he makes (not hyperbole) and is literally viewed as one of the greatest modern heroes.

    The other has people chanting for his death every day, his supporters are seen as insane and ostracized, and he is viewed as one of the most evil men walking now.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  13. #28853
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Just think about the sides of the coin these two men are living on and why it'd be interesting to see them interact.

    One is cheered on with every step he makes (not hyperbole) and is literally viewed as one of the greatest modern heroes.

    The other has people chanting for his death every day, his supporters are seen as insane and ostracized, and he is viewed as one of the most evil men walking now.
    That's nice Billy, good for you, but what has any of this have to do with the price of tea in China?

  14. #28854
    The international team investigating the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) by a missile has convincing evidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally signed off on a decision to allow the Russian missile system into Ukraine, Dutch prosecutors said on Wednesday.

    The BUK-TELAR missile system was used to shoot down MH17 on its way from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, investigators said.

    However, they said the evidence was not enough to lead to prosecution.

    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-730942
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  15. #28855
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    The international team investigating the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17) by a missile has convincing evidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally signed off on a decision to allow the Russian missile system into Ukraine, Dutch prosecutors said on Wednesday.

    The BUK-TELAR missile system was used to shoot down MH17 on its way from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, investigators said.

    However, they said the evidence was not enough to lead to prosecution.

    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-730942
    Yeah something pretty much everyone had already realised around July 20th 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    I'm just trying to figure out how he'd get into French airspace.
    Well, to be fair, I doubt any country would down a plane suspected of carrying putin so that wouldn't be too hard.

  17. #28857
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Well, to be fair, I doubt any country would down a plane suspected of carrying putin so that wouldn't be too hard.
    A plane refusing to turn back from airspace it is not welcome to would absolutely get shot down if it refused to follow instructions after an intercepting fighter jet has made visual contact with it, even if it was carrying the Pope himself. Nations don't fuck around with uncooperative planes after 9/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    A plane refusing to turn back from airspace it is not welcome to would absolutely get shot down if it refused to follow instructions after an intercepting fighter jet has made visual contact with it, even if it was carrying the Pope himself. Nations don't fuck around with uncooperative planes after 9/11.
    I can see forcing down, but I guarantee you no country will pull the trigger on any plane carrying putin, Biden or Xi.

  19. #28859
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    I can see forcing down, but I guarantee you no country will pull the trigger on any plane carrying putin, Biden or Xi.
    I kinda wanna see this play out in real life now.

    I propose Putin tries to fly over Poland.

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    No more penal legions

    Wankers aren't recruiting anymore.

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