1. #28941
    It doesn't mean much, but in response to the statements Russia is trying to infilitrate/destroy Moldova from the inside-out, they responded with:

    "no, we're not doing that stop making us look bad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    It doesn't mean much, but in response to the statements Russia is trying to infilitrate/destroy Moldova from the inside-out, they responded with:

    "no, we're not doing that stop making us look bad."
    I mean at this point they will have to admit to something for people to believe they AREN'T involved in something.

  3. #28943
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    I mean at this point they will have to admit to something for people to believe they AREN'T involved in something.
    It's even harder to believe because, in the same time frame that was claimed, Prigozhin completely admitted to sabotaging US elections.

    It's weird he would come out with this, even when you consider pride. Because it goes against Putin's diplomatic interests and makes the Kremlin look even worse, which is stranger when you consider Prigohzin is frequently cited as Putin's "right-hand man." It's just not a well-thought out move.
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  4. #28944
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    It's even harder to believe because, in the same time frame that was claimed, Prigozhin completely admitted to sabotaging US elections.

    It's weird he would come out with this, even when you consider pride. Because it goes against Putin's diplomatic interests and makes the Kremlin look even worse, which is stranger when you consider Prigohzin is frequently cited as Putin's "right-hand man." It's just not a well-thought out move.
    1) they’re Russians, nothing they concieve of is anything near “well thought out”.

    2) how would YOU be able to recognize “well thought out”? Your analysis have consistently been at the level of the average 11 year old.

  5. #28945
    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    1) they’re Russians, nothing they concieve of is anything near “well thought out”.

    2) how would YOU be able to recognize “well thought out”? Your analysis have consistently been at the level of the average 11 year old.
    I would like to take offence on behalf of any 11 year olds that may be reading this thread. Average or otherwise.
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  6. #28946
    So I'm not trying to add to any fearmongering here; therefore, I won't give personal input, but this made top story:

    Russia deploys nuclear-armed ships for first time in 30 years

    ‘Tactical nuclear weapons are a particularly serious threat,’ Norwegian intelligence report says."

    Russia has begun deploying tactical nuclear weapon-armed vessels in the Baltic Sea for the first time in the last 30 years, the Norwegian Intelligence Service said in its annual report.

    “The key part of the nuclear potential is on the submarines and surface ships of the Northern Fleet,” the Norwegian intel noted.

    The Northern Fleet warships regularly went to sea with nuclear weapons during the Cold War era, but this is the first time the modern Russian Federation has done the same, the report added.

    While Russia also has submarine capabilities, anti-satellite weapons and cyber capabilities that could threaten Norway and the NATO military alliance, tactical nuclear weapons are “a particularly serious threat in several operational scenarios in which NATO countries may be involved,” the report said.

    The Norwegian intelligence also noted that an escalation of a localized war into a wider conflict involving the United States, NATO and Norway cannot be ruled out.

    The agency assessed that while Russia will maintain, modernize and develop its nuclear arsenal, no significant changes in Russian nuclear doctrine are expected in the coming years.
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  7. #28947
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    So I'm not trying to add to any fearmongering here; therefore, I won't give personal input, but this made top story:

    Russia deploys nuclear-armed ships for first time in 30 years

    ‘Tactical nuclear weapons are a particularly serious threat,’ Norwegian intelligence report says."

    Russia has begun deploying tactical nuclear weapon-armed vessels in the Baltic Sea for the first time in the last 30 years, the Norwegian Intelligence Service said in its annual report.

    “The key part of the nuclear potential is on the submarines and surface ships of the Northern Fleet,” the Norwegian intel noted.

    The Northern Fleet warships regularly went to sea with nuclear weapons during the Cold War era, but this is the first time the modern Russian Federation has done the same, the report added.

    While Russia also has submarine capabilities, anti-satellite weapons and cyber capabilities that could threaten Norway and the NATO military alliance, tactical nuclear weapons are “a particularly serious threat in several operational scenarios in which NATO countries may be involved,” the report said.

    The Norwegian intelligence also noted that an escalation of a localized war into a wider conflict involving the United States, NATO and Norway cannot be ruled out.

    The agency assessed that while Russia will maintain, modernize and develop its nuclear arsenal, no significant changes in Russian nuclear doctrine are expected in the coming years.
    How is this not fearmongering rusbot?

  8. #28948
    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    How is this not fearmongering rusbot?
    He obviously thinks that if he doesn't specifically spell out the N word dozen times; only implies it, then it's magically not qualified as fear mongering.
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  9. #28949
    The Brits are saying that 97% of the entire russian army is now in Ukraine. Basically the entire rest of the country is undefended.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share

  10. #28950
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The Brits are saying that 97% of the entire russian army is now in Ukraine. Basically the entire rest of the country is undefended.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share
    No one is going to directly attack Russia so that's moot.

    Also, they really are going in on the 500k man assault huh
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  11. #28951
    Ah, but what if a separatist movement started up somewhere - is russia going to nuke itself?

    And the winter offensive has already started and largely failed. They threw 6 brigades plus support units at Vuhledar, some 30-50k men and got wrecked. The other offensives have faired little better.

  12. #28952
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    No one is going to directly attack Russia so that's moot.

    Also, they really are going in on the 500k man slaughter huh
    Again, literally nobody doubted this.

  13. #28953
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Again, literally nobody doubted this.
    yes they did (again). Some posters here were "they cant be THAT reckless"

    what a timeline to be in where they literally mostly ran in on foot with the full estimated numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    yes they did (again). Some posters here were "they cant be THAT reckless"

    what a timeline to be in where they literally mostly ran in on foot with the full estimated numbers

    Quote them.
    No one said that. A lot of people said they were going to fail but no one said they can't be that reckless.

  15. #28955
    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post

    Quote them.
    No one said that. A lot of people said they were going to fail but no one said they can't be that reckless.
    a few pages ago, I recited that conversation with that moderator here, who demanded to know how they would get supplies, etc, and that my suggestion they were going to launch this "final all out assault" was just doomsday/paranoid talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    a few pages ago, I recited that conversation with that moderator here, who demanded to know how they would get supplies, etc, and that my suggestion they were going to launch this "final all out assault" was just doomsday/paranoid talk.
    Then quote that text. It's not that hard.

  17. #28957
    No one was saying they wouldn't do it. What they have been saying is that it would be impossible to throw 500K men at one small part of the line due to logistics, modern weapons etc.

    Which is why they are throwing them in smaller groups, of 30K+, at places like Bakhmut, Vuhledar, Kreminna and so on. And they are largely failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The Brits are saying that 97% of the entire russian army is now in Ukraine. Basically the entire rest of the country is undefended.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share
    Does this include the rosvergardya (or however it is spelled)? Cause that's another 300k soldiers or so, of course those are supposed to keep russia pacified. (and putin safe, but who cares about that detail.)

  19. #28959
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Does this include the rosvergardya (or however it is spelled)? Cause that's another 300k soldiers or so, of course those are supposed to keep russia pacified. (and putin safe, but who cares about that detail.)
    The rosgvardia aren't army. There job is internal security. Some went into Ukraine at the start of the war when they thought it would be over in 3 days and they just needed the rosgvardia thugs to pacify the civilians. Turns out they were no good against people who fight back.
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  20. #28960
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    yes they did (again). Some posters here were "they cant be THAT reckless"

    what a timeline to be in where they literally mostly ran in on foot with the full estimated numbers
    Literally nobody said that. EVERYONE that has been following this conflict has always known Russian are incapable of tactics beyond "human wave" and "bomb civilians".

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    a few pages ago, I recited that conversation with that moderator here, who demanded to know how they would get supplies, etc, and that my suggestion they were going to launch this "final all out assault" was just doomsday/paranoid talk.
    Lay down the sauce for once. People were telling you that they don't believe the Russians will succeed in their attack because they are beyond shit at logistics, not that they don't believe Russia will try to do something incredibly retarded that is doomed to fail.

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