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    LONG POST. ALSO, MAY BE NSFL. READ AT YOUR PERIL.

    Following up more on Russian's child concentration camps I mentioned a few days ago. An anonymous user on reddit and Twitter is very dedicated to this particular atrocity of Russia's, and has documented massive amount of details, including perpetrators.

    More than 6,000 children in Russia’s custody. Children from Ukraine ages four months to 17 years who have been held at camps and other facilities since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022. At least 43 facilities in network. 12 camps around the Black Sea, 7 in occupied Crimea, 10 clustered around Moscow, Kazan, and Yekaterinburg. 11 of the camps are located over 500 miles from Ukraine’s border, including two camps in Siberia and one in Russia’s Far East.

    Network of children’s facilities stretches from one end of Russia to the other: The furthest camp this investigation identifies is in Magadan oblast in Russia’s Far East near the Pacific Ocean, approximately 3,900 miles from Ukraine’s border with the Russian Federation.

    At least 32 (78%) of the camps engaged in systematic re-education efforts that expose children from Ukraine to Russia-centric academic, cultural, patriotic, and/or military education. At least two camps that hosted children alleged to be orphans who were later placed with foster families in Russia. Twenty children from these camps were reported to have been placed with families in Moscow oblast and enrolled in local schools there.

    At two camps, Artek and Medvezhonok, children’s returns were suspended indefinitely according to parents. Medvezhonok is one of the largest camps identified, at one point hosting at least 300 children from Ukraine. Parents also described being unable to get information about their child’s status or whereabouts after their return has been suspended. It is unknown how many of Ukraine’s children Russia currently holds and how many have been released to their families.











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  2. #29042
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I mean, it's no laughing matter, but given their mortality rate either by Putin's "dismissals" or the war, that may be true eventually.
    Ohh but it is.

  3. #29043
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    LONG POST. ALSO, MAY BE NSFL. READ AT YOUR PERIL.
    Pretty sure you'd have to be posting unedited (maybe even edited) gore photos for that tag to be relevant.

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    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    So many suicides in Russia, maybe it’s something in the water.
    The suicide by firing squad is my current favourite, thou I’m hoping of a someone getting a suicide by jumping out of a helicopter still.

  6. #29046
    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Pretty sure you'd have to be posting unedited (maybe even edited) gore photos for that tag to be relevant.
    I've seen people break down over just hearing of Russia's child genocide alone. So there's reason to stand it's not for the faint of heart, especially in great detail. Therefore, a Not Safe tag is ok.

    I don't have much of a soul in myself anymore so I watch or hear these things without being worn down, though. I understand why other people would be distressed though to be considerate enough.
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  7. #29047
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/arrested-...154700821.html
    Arrested German intel officer was to leak HIMARS and IRIS-T locations in Ukraine to Moscow – Der Spiegel
    The publication writes that last fall, the FSB tried to obtain data on the location of Ukrainian artillery and air defense through an employee of Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service, named as Carsten L., who was later arrested.

    According to the investigation, the BND officer was supposed to provide the FSB with GPS data for the HIMARS rocket systems, provided by Washington, and the IRIS-T air defense system, supplied by Berlin.

    "People familiar with the case say it is unlikely that such data could have been leaked," the newspaper writes.

    Der Spiegel reports that the spy was offered a "six-figure sum" for providing information.

    In December, a foreign intelligence agent suspected of passing state secrets to Russia was arrested in Germany.

    The detainee, whose name, according to media reports, is Carsten L., is suspected of treason.
    Funny that Russia needed help finding and trying to destroy Himars when according to them they had already killed 5x more than we ever sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/arrested-...154700821.html
    Arrested German intel officer was to leak HIMARS and IRIS-T locations in Ukraine to Moscow – Der Spiegel


    Funny that Russia needed help finding and trying to destroy Himars when according to them they had already killed 5x more than we ever sent.
    Treason in Wartime? Does Germany still execute people for that?

  9. #29049
    "Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."

  10. #29050
    Here is an easy way to end the war, Russia gets the fuck out of ALL Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    Here is an easy way to end the war, Russia gets the fuck out of ALL Ukraine.
    Channelling your inner Sanne Marin I see ^_^. But yea that is the first step, though I don't think it's super bad if Biden mediates.

  12. #29052
    Belarus invites USA and Russia to decide Ukraines fate. You realise that says absolutely nothing right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Channelling your inner Sanne Marin I see ^_^. But yea that is the first step, though I don't think it's super bad if Biden mediates.
    It is bad in this case, because Lukashenko intends for Ukraine to not be involved in the discussion.

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    Any serious analysis of that would read it as Russia still not being actually serious about negotiations, when they're still seeking to exclude the government of Ukraine from being the other primary participant talks would be held with.

    What Russia wants here is less a negotiation under which terms Russia buggers off, and more "stop supporting them so this can end in a Russian victory".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    Belarus invites USA and Russia to decide Ukraines fate. You realise that says absolutely nothing right?

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    It is bad in this case, because Lukashenko intends for Ukraine to not be involved in the discussion.
    I obviously mean: if Biden mediates between Zelenskyy and putin, who cares what Lukashenko wants? The only consideration he gets is for not sending troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Treason in Wartime? Does Germany still execute people for that?
    They should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Treason in Wartime? Does Germany still execute people for that?
    Hex-Y-Poo. Wiki-Res-Cue!
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    They should.
    Opinions on that aside, a lengthier prison sentence seems more likely to be what's in store for this Carsten L.

    Technically Germany is not at war with any of the belligerents here, and they've abolished capital punishment by now.

  18. #29058
    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    , and they've abolished capital punishment by now.
    Fun fact: the state constitution of Hessia included the death penalty until 2018. Which didn't practically matter because Germanys Basic Law abolished it in 1949 and state constitutions can only increase your rights above Basic Law, not make it worse for you.

  19. #29059
    remember a while ago when I mentioned South Africa joining Russia's war, and you people laughed it off saying they won't do shit? Least of all provide soldiers. Well, it seems like they have officially joined the new Axis

    Russia, China and South Africa are set to begin naval drills off South Africa’s Indian Ocean coast Friday in a demonstration of the three countries’ close ties amid Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s tense relationship with the West.

    The 10 days of exercises, named Mosi II, will coincide with the first anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24.

    A Russian frigate, the Admiral Gorshkov, arrived in Cape Town earlier this week sporting the letters Z and V on its sides, letters that mark Russian weapons on the front lines in Ukraine and are used as a patriotic symbol in Russia.

    In protest, a small yacht flying Ukraine’s flag sailed by the Russian frigate in Cape Town’s harbor. South African protesters opposed to the exercises are expected to demonstrate at the Russian Consulate in Cape Town on Friday.

    The arrival of the Admiral Gorshkov has stirred considerable controversy because it is armed with the latest Zircon hypersonic missiles, a weapon that Russia says can penetrate any missile defenses to strike targets at sea and on land.

    The warship is set to test-fire a Zircon missile during the joint naval drills, according to Russian state news agency Tass. The test will be the first launch of the missile in an international exercise.

    The American government believes that munitions and rocket propellant that Russia could use in the Ukraine war were loaded onto the Russian tanker, while it was docked in South Africa. U.S. is considering whether to take action against South Africa.
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  20. #29060
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    remember a while ago when I mentioned South Africa joining Russia's war, and you people laughed it off saying they won't do shit? Least of all provide soldiers. Well, it seems like they have officially joined the new Axis

    Russia, China and South Africa are set to begin naval drills off South Africa’s Indian Ocean coast Friday in a demonstration of the three countries’ close ties amid Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s tense relationship with the West.

    The 10 days of exercises, named Mosi II, will coincide with the first anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24.

    A Russian frigate, the Admiral Gorshkov, arrived in Cape Town earlier this week sporting the letters Z and V on its sides, letters that mark Russian weapons on the front lines in Ukraine and are used as a patriotic symbol in Russia.

    In protest, a small yacht flying Ukraine’s flag sailed by the Russian frigate in Cape Town’s harbor. South African protesters opposed to the exercises are expected to demonstrate at the Russian Consulate in Cape Town on Friday.

    The arrival of the Admiral Gorshkov has stirred considerable controversy because it is armed with the latest Zircon hypersonic missiles, a weapon that Russia says can penetrate any missile defenses to strike targets at sea and on land.

    The warship is set to test-fire a Zircon missile during the joint naval drills, according to Russian state news agency Tass. The test will be the first launch of the missile in an international exercise.

    The American government believes that munitions and rocket propellant that Russia could use in the Ukraine war were loaded onto the Russian tanker, while it was docked in South Africa. U.S. is considering whether to take action against South Africa.
    Nothing have changed in that regard. They still havent joined Russia in the war against Ukraine.

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