Russian invasion of Ukraine

[postman1782]

This guy nails what the Ukraine -Russia conflict is about

And Furthermore, the $$ that is being sent to the Ukraine could help fix some of America's problems
like Homelessness, Medical & Crime.

The US War Machine keeps rolling and NATO keeps trying to go east

No he isn't. Valuetainment is another moronic Trumptard channel. And Jimmy Dore is just fucking stupid.

[Gabriel]

This guy nails what the Ukraine -Russia conflict is about

And Furthermore, the $$ that is being sent to the Ukraine could help fix some of America's problems
like Homelessness, Medical & Crime.

The US War Machine keeps rolling and NATO keeps trying to go east

Ohh look, another sub 50 posts pro-russian poster. I thought Putin cut the funding for that particular unit already back when their star player got himself permanent vacation.

[The Stormbringer]

This guy nails what the Ukraine -Russia conflict is about

And Furthermore, the $$ that is being sent to the Ukraine could help fix some of America's problems
like Homelessness, Medical & Crime.

The US War Machine keeps rolling and NATO keeps trying to go east

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKUtg-4BxMY

This psycho literally starts the video by claiming there's a "deep state". Like within three seconds. Your point has lost more credibility than it ever could have without this video.

[zorkuus]

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Hi ruZZki, getting enough turnips to eat?

[Azadina]

This guy nails what the Ukraine -Russia conflict is about

And Furthermore, the $$ that is being sent to the Ukraine could help fix some of America's problems
like Homelessness, Medical & Crime.

The US War Machine keeps rolling and NATO keeps trying to go east

Don't think the name of yours went unnoticed. As if it needed further reinforcement how much Putlerites and RuZZkies are just modern day nazis.

[Iphie]

I was wondering indeed about the "88"...

[jonnysensible]

I was wondering indeed about the "88"...

inb4iwasbornin1988

[Edge-]

and NATO keeps trying to go east

...and?

Do these idiots believe the "not one inch east" bullshit because they're smoothbrains who have never had a critical thought in their head? rofl

Russa simps are kinda funny.

[Saradain]

...and?

Do these idiots believe the "not one inch east" bullshit because they're smoothbrains who have never had a critical thought in their head? rofl

Russa simps are kinda funny.

Smoothbrains can't function if they are fought against. Not one inch east, so Russia can rape-pillage-murder-invade everyone and everything. To last man, woman and child.

Now if only the world wasn't mostly consisted of smoothbrains :/

[KrayZ33]

I have a question regarding that argument in the first place.

You have the NATO, and the Warsaw pact and the Soviet Union. Neither the Warsaw pact nor the Soviet Union exists any longer.
Even if the promise to them was made 1990 what the heck does it matter. It's not like just the "name" changed... both things no longer exist.

If a country splits into multiple new ones, wouldn't you have to make new deals with that country anyway? I mean, imagine if the US would split up and every state would become its own nation or republic - if you made a deal with the US+Hawaii to not set up base in Hawaii or whatever, but after the split, Hawaii decides to allow it, why would the then New York or Washington or whatever have the right to stop it by saying "ya but you promised "us" and there is this deal we had"

How do things like these work in case of new countries popping up and military alliances and unions breaking up.

[Edge-]

I have a question regarding that argument in the first place.

You have the NATO, and the Warsaw pact and the Soviet Union. Neither the Warsaw pact nor the Soviet Union exists any longer.
Even if the promise to them was made 1990 what the heck does it matter. It's not like just the "name" changed... both things no longer exist.

If a country splits into multiple new ones, wouldn't you have to make new deals with that country anyway? I mean, imagine if the US would split up and every state would become its own nation or republic - if you made a deal with the US+Hawaii to not set up base in Hawaii or whatever, but after the split, Hawaii decides to allow it, why would the then New York or Washington or whatever have the right to stop it by saying "ya but you promised "us" and there is this deal we had"

How do things like these work in case of new countries popping up and military alliances and unions breaking up.

That's the point. It's a bad-faith, dishonest argument from Putin and Russia simps.

Even presuming the "not one inch eastward" line was anything ever actually agreed to by either the defunct Soviet Union or NATO allies, which it never was.

[Azadina]

inb4iwasbornin1988

Yeah, that particular "plausible deniability" isn't going to work when he had just totally coincidentally coupled it with "hugo". Hugo, like...Hugo Boss, a designer of nazi wardrobe and avid nazi party member.

[D3thray]

...and?

Do these idiots believe the "not one inch east" bullshit because they're smoothbrains who have never had a critical thought in their head? rofl

Russa simps are kinda funny.

Even if there was provocation it doesn’t justify sending your own boys into the meat grinder in an offensive action. It’s asinine even from the Russian perspective as far as I can tell.

Edit: America’s got its own skeletons *cough* Gulf of Tonkin *cough* but doing something stupid ‘because everyone else is doing it’ is sophomoric at best.

[Edge-]

Even if there was provocation it doesn’t justify sending your own boys into the meat grinder in an offensive action. It’s asinine even from the Russian perspective as far as I can tell.

It depends on what justification you're using.

That it's all a special operation to denazify Ukraine?

Or they're liberating the parts of Ukraine that want to join Russia?

Or they're battling NATO forces who are already in Ukraine?

I'm sure I'm forgetting at least a dozen other excuses they've come up with over the past year of their 3 day special operation.

[Gorsameth]

Nato doesn't want to move east. countries to the east of NATO desperately want in because NATO is their only protection from Russia.
The entire 'NATO moving east' only exists because Russia threatens its neighbours constantly.

[zealo]

Nato doesn't want to move east. countries to the east of NATO desperately want in because NATO is their only protection from Russia.
The entire 'NATO moving east' only exists because Russia threatens its neighbours constantly.

Well, that and also because most of those countries have a history of being under the boots of the Russians for half a century, they weren't about to take any chances with Russia pulling a repeat once the country stood back up after falling on it's ass in the 90s.

Which by what we've been seeing over the past decades from Russia were an entirely correct assessment.

[Corvus]

When he isn't rambling on about gay Jewish nazi Satanists, pootie has made it clear this war is part of his dream of restoring the russian empire. The only reason place like the Baltics aren't suffering like Ukraine is they are part of NATO.

[TACOshake]

*Ron Howard voice*
Hasan Piker was a year late in getting to that hill.



Looking back a year into this thread. You can see which posters use twitch as their primary source for news and politics.
Or the real weirdos that played too much Metal Gear instead of going through puberty. Now they think nuclear annihilation is behind every corner.

Hmmmm maybe these should also go in the unpopular opinion thred.

[Xyonai]

I'll admit I was also kind of in that boat at first; they were projecting their next move so much that it felt like it -had- to be a ruse because it was so obvious what they were doing, and that they'd just use the 'hysteria' by the west as a political victory. I'd just assumed they would continue to arm and train insurgents in Ukraine's eastern regions and chip the country away piece by piece with plausible deniability.

And I'll admit I was wrong, because I bought into the notion that Putin was much more cunning than he actually turned out to be, and severely underestimated the level of rank corruption and lack of coordination plaguing their ranks. They'd been punching down on ill equipped nations and propped up by super villain memes for so long I'll shamefully admit I bought into the hype about their military capabilities.

[Corvus]

The war has now reached its one year mark. Impressive for a 3 day operation.

I expect we will see a major terrorist missile attack to mark it. And pootie's demand that Bakhmut be taken by the anniversary has also failed.

What hasn't is the insanity on russian state TV. The latest is they want to nuke Yellowstone to trigger a supervolcano. Putting aside failing basic science, they are referring to using the Sarmat. You know, the missile that failed in testing just a couple of days ago.

If russia seems to be pushing the Sarmat a lot of late, its because they have to. The plan was to have replaced all their ICBMs by now with Sarmats, just like they were going to have thousands of T14s operational by now too. Except it isn't operational yet and so they are still relying on their older missiles. Missiles that were build back in the Soviet days in Ukraine, and largely maintained from their as well. When they burned that bridge, they decided to go with a homegrown ICBM, the Sarmat, which they have been working on for a decade now and still haven't got operational.