Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Flarelaine]

If that is the case, they do not signal it very well. Not now, not with Crimea in 2014 and not with Georgia in 2008.

Just how much effort they put into messaging will obviously be tailored to every moment, but you will not catch them actively condoning land grabs.

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Lmao. Before anyone tries to racist, I am arab.

But this shows you just how two faced Gulf Nations really are. Guaranteed they support Russia materially. KSA can never fully be against Russia when they are far more anti-turkish

And they are vehemently anti-Iran. I'd say their motivation in supporting Ukraine is opposing Iran.

[Elder Millennial]

The Russian military on state-sponsored tv tonight suggested nuking the San Andreas Fault and Yellowstone in order to set off the caldera and earthquakes, with the genius theory that it would end Western civilization.

"We're 1980's Bond villains now and our war plans are drawn up by Wile E. Coyote!" -Russia.

[YUPPIE]

Are none of you bothered by the fact Zelenksy is regularly talking to Saudi officials? I don't mention it too often, as though it's a sporadic occurrence, but it's actually not that infrequent. I mean, it's Saudi Arabia, who is also raping and pillaging Yemen like how Russia is doing to Ukraine. The point is not lost on some commentators.

Regardless...

Following that meeting I mentioned, Saudi Arabia pledges 400 million worth of aid to Ukraine.

[Gorsameth]

Are none of you bothered by the fact Zelenksy is regularly talking to Saudi officials? I don't mention it too often, as though it's a sporadic occurrence, but it's actually not that infrequent. I mean, it's Saudi Arabia.

Following that meeting I mentioned, Saudi Arabia pledges 400 million worth of aid to Ukraine.

Your wondering why someone facing an existential crisis in his country is willing to accept any and all help to preserve his nation?
Your time banned certainly hasn't helped your insight.

[YUPPIE]

Your wondering why someone facing an existential crisis in his country is willing to accept any and all help to preserve his nation?

so you don't think it really matters that Zelenksy accepting Saudis means it's further propelling them to the stage of international politics and relations? The Ukraine war is a big deal on the world stage, and nations that are third-world or sanctioned could be opportunistic to use the situation to improve their own standings.

If the civilized world wanted Saudi Arabia to be alienated publicly like Russia, something like this is a huge step back.

[ringpriest]

so you don't think it really matters that Zelenksy accepting Saudis means it's further propelling them to the stage of international politics and relations? The Ukraine war is a big deal on the world stage, and nations that are third-world or sanctioned could be opportunistic to use the situation to improve their own standings.

If the civilized world wanted Saudi Arabia to be alienated publicly like Russia, something like this is a huge step back.

The Saudi dictatorship is still a part of the international community of nations, regardless of how anyone feels about it. MBS' government is neither North Korea nor the Taliban. Virtually everyone talks to and does business with Arabia (including former President Trump's son-in-law). Singling out Zelensky and Ukraine, and trying to lower the general opinion of them for doing something that is perfectly within current international norms is a very obviously what Putin's propagandists would want.

Whether Yuppers here is pushing a Russian narrative deliberately or completely by accident, I have no way to know. Other posters are quite capable of looking at posting history and drawing their own conclusions.

[Saradain]

Anyone seen this final all-out assault that decides the the whole course of the war?

A prophet told it would happen on 24th. Where's the all-in offensive?

[Gorsameth]

Anyone seen this final all-out assault that decides the the whole course of the war?

A prophet told it would happen on 24th. Where's the all-in offensive?

It started before the 24th. The reason we haven't really seen it is because it completely failed.

[Gabriel]

"is it in already?"

I-it is a perfectly averagely sized assault.

[Saradain]

It started before the 24th. The reason we haven't really seen it is because it completely failed.

Great prophet was wrong again.

I-it is a perfectly averagely sized assault.

Size doesn't matter. In Soviet Union, you die regardless. By your own.

[Iphie]

Anyone seen this final all-out assault that decides the the whole course of the war?

A prophet told it would happen on 24th. Where's the all-in offensive?

It petered out. I've seen videos of russians driving IFV down a road in Vuhledar towards a crossroads which is obviously mined, as can be seen by the OTHER 6-8 burned out wrecks, and just...drive into the minefield with predictable results. That's not gonna result in a great offensive.

At Bakhmut they're making a little bit of progress but Wanker SS has to beg for every scrap of ammo, and when they get it a not insignificant amount is rusted beyond recovery. In the meantime prig is beefing with everyone of the elites telling them the times of executions of dissenters should return. I see a "spontaneous self-defenestration" or a game of russian roulette with a semi-automatic in his near future. (Yes, I know, yes, I meant that, no, I'm not stupid.)

[Gorsameth]

It petered out. I've seen videos of russians driving IFV down a road in Vuhledar towards a crossroads which is obviously mined, as can be seen by the OTHER 6-8 burned out wrecks, and just...drive into the minefield with predictable results. That's not gonna result in a great offensive.

At Bakhmut they're making a little bit of progress but Wanker SS has to beg for every scrap of ammo, and when they get it a not insignificant amount is rusted beyond recovery. In the meantime prig is beefing with everyone of the elites telling them the times of executions of dissenters should return. I see a "spontaneous self-defenestration" or a game of russian roulette with a semi-automatic in his near future. (Yes, I know, yes, I meant that, no, I'm not stupid.)

Even Bakhmut may turn out to be entirely for nothing if the Ukrainian counter pincer that is apparently ongoing bears fruit.

[zealo]

Even Bakhmut may turn out to be entirely for nothing if the Ukrainian counter pincer that is apparently ongoing bears fruit.

Even if Russia does manage to take Bakhmut, that particular town doesn't hold great strategic value. Small town that barely had 70k people in it before all this in the second biggest country in Europe.

Why the fighting there has become so fierce has entirely different reasons.

[YUPPIE]

there's a lot of back-and-forth talk on the mysterious shit going down in Belarus actually being indicative Lukashenko is not loyal enough to Putin to want to die for him.

And by shit going down, I mean the increased pressure to put Belarusians into the war full-time. Lukashenko seems very oddly reluctant to do that, and some conspiracy theories indicate he's manipulating the situation so Putin can't have that.

[Gorsameth]

there's a lot of back-and-forth talk on the mysterious shit going down in Belarus actually being indicative Lukashenko is not loyal enough to Putin to want to die for him.

And by shit going down, I mean the increased pressure to put Belarusians into the war full-time. Lukashenko seems very oddly reluctant to do that, and some conspiracy theories indicate he's manipulating the situation so Putin can't have that.

* insert any of the dozen posts we have already answered you with about this exact same topic *

[Kallisto]

* insert any of the dozen posts we have already answered you with about this exact same topic *

He's just a drunk sea lioning troll

[Gabriel]

there's a lot of back-and-forth talk on the mysterious shit going down in Belarus actually being indicative Lukashenko is not loyal enough to Putin to want to die for him.

And by shit going down, I mean the increased pressure to put Belarusians into the war full-time. Lukashenko seems very oddly reluctant to do that, and some conspiracy theories indicate he's manipulating the situation so Putin can't have that.

How hammered did you get during your vacation?

[YUPPIE]

I think Belarus' place in this war should be taken into consideration for Putin, now more than ever, because Zelenksy has become emboldened enough to make statements like believing this war could end in 2023 and that Putin will likely be killed by his own people.

That means whatever happened to February's huge assault didn't accomplish much for the Russian side, but they suffered most of the predicted losses.

[Xyonai]

Belarus won't do shit but be a highway for Putin's forces (Assuming Partisans don't blow everything up they've got stashed there in the meantime).

Their military power is too small to make any sort of difference in Ukraine, yet large enough that if Putin wants to fuck around he'll find himself bogged down in a pointless second front by Belarusian soldiers who don't want to die for some foreign dictator's war and citizens who already hate their puppet government finding an excuse to get the molotovs out.

[TwistedSkull]

Are none of you bothered by the fact Zelenksy is regularly talking to Saudi officials? I don't mention it too often, as though it's a sporadic occurrence, but it's actually not that infrequent. I mean, it's Saudi Arabia, who is also raping and pillaging Yemen like how Russia is doing to Ukraine. The point is not lost on some commentators.

Regardless...

Following that meeting I mentioned, Saudi Arabia pledges 400 million worth of aid to Ukraine.

It seems you look for reasons to hate a leader desperately seeking help from whomever it might be.

While i don't like KSA, I don't blame Zelenski for reaching out in the hopes of aide.