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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    It petered out. I've seen videos of russians driving IFV down a road in Vuhledar towards a crossroads which is obviously mined, as can be seen by the OTHER 6-8 burned out wrecks, and just...drive into the minefield with predictable results. That's not gonna result in a great offensive.

    At Bakhmut they're making a little bit of progress but Wanker SS has to beg for every scrap of ammo, and when they get it a not insignificant amount is rusted beyond recovery. In the meantime prig is beefing with everyone of the elites telling them the times of executions of dissenters should return. I see a "spontaneous self-defenestration" or a game of russian roulette with a semi-automatic in his near future. (Yes, I know, yes, I meant that, no, I'm not stupid.)
    Even Bakhmut may turn out to be entirely for nothing if the Ukrainian counter pincer that is apparently ongoing bears fruit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Even Bakhmut may turn out to be entirely for nothing if the Ukrainian counter pincer that is apparently ongoing bears fruit.
    Even if Russia does manage to take Bakhmut, that particular town doesn't hold great strategic value. Small town that barely had 70k people in it before all this in the second biggest country in Europe.

    Why the fighting there has become so fierce has entirely different reasons.

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    there's a lot of back-and-forth talk on the mysterious shit going down in Belarus actually being indicative Lukashenko is not loyal enough to Putin to want to die for him.

    And by shit going down, I mean the increased pressure to put Belarusians into the war full-time. Lukashenko seems very oddly reluctant to do that, and some conspiracy theories indicate he's manipulating the situation so Putin can't have that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    there's a lot of back-and-forth talk on the mysterious shit going down in Belarus actually being indicative Lukashenko is not loyal enough to Putin to want to die for him.

    And by shit going down, I mean the increased pressure to put Belarusians into the war full-time. Lukashenko seems very oddly reluctant to do that, and some conspiracy theories indicate he's manipulating the situation so Putin can't have that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    there's a lot of back-and-forth talk on the mysterious shit going down in Belarus actually being indicative Lukashenko is not loyal enough to Putin to want to die for him.

    And by shit going down, I mean the increased pressure to put Belarusians into the war full-time. Lukashenko seems very oddly reluctant to do that, and some conspiracy theories indicate he's manipulating the situation so Putin can't have that.
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    I think Belarus' place in this war should be taken into consideration for Putin, now more than ever, because Zelenksy has become emboldened enough to make statements like believing this war could end in 2023 and that Putin will likely be killed by his own people.

    That means whatever happened to February's huge assault didn't accomplish much for the Russian side, but they suffered most of the predicted losses.
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    Belarus won't do shit but be a highway for Putin's forces (Assuming Partisans don't blow everything up they've got stashed there in the meantime).

    Their military power is too small to make any sort of difference in Ukraine, yet large enough that if Putin wants to fuck around he'll find himself bogged down in a pointless second front by Belarusian soldiers who don't want to die for some foreign dictator's war and citizens who already hate their puppet government finding an excuse to get the molotovs out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Are none of you bothered by the fact Zelenksy is regularly talking to Saudi officials? I don't mention it too often, as though it's a sporadic occurrence, but it's actually not that infrequent. I mean, it's Saudi Arabia, who is also raping and pillaging Yemen like how Russia is doing to Ukraine. The point is not lost on some commentators.

    Regardless...

    Following that meeting I mentioned, Saudi Arabia pledges 400 million worth of aid to Ukraine.
    It seems you look for reasons to hate a leader desperately seeking help from whomever it might be.

    While i don't like KSA, I don't blame Zelenski for reaching out in the hopes of aide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Are none of you bothered by the fact Zelenksy is regularly talking to Saudi officials? I don't mention it too often
    You mention it all the fucking time, and as with every time prior nobody is surprised or bothered.

    If you want to know why you're panicked and outraged all the time, this is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedSkull View Post
    It seems you look for reasons to hate a leader desperately seeking help from whomever it might be.

    While i don't like KSA, I don't blame Zelenski for reaching out in the hopes of aide.
    Nah I don't hate him, but commentators have wasted no time in pointing out the irony in him strengthening ties with the Saudis considering Yemen.

    but maybe I should stop looking too much for morals or justice in the world after remembering how many times Joe Biden called MBS a killer and thug, then later he was seen fistbumping with him and strengthened their diplomatic ties.
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    I'm still not sure how he ever had a career to be honest. Or how he makes money nowadays. His movies are mostly just him showing up to mumble a few lines and wave his hands around while they get someone who sounds nothing like him to dub 3/4ths of his lines and his body double half his size (very obviously not him) to handle everything from kicking higher than the knee to the death-defying scenes of "walking down a hallway".

    If you haven't watched the videos of his martial arts "displays", highly recommend. They're 10/10 shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm still not sure how he ever had a career to be honest. Or how he makes money nowadays. His movies are mostly just him showing up to mumble a few lines and wave his hands around while they get someone who sounds nothing like him to dub 3/4ths of his lines and his body double half his size (very obviously not him) to handle everything from kicking higher than the knee to the death-defying scenes of "walking down a hallway".

    If you haven't watched the videos of his martial arts "displays", highly recommend. They're 10/10 shit.
    Ye, I have recently discovered a channel that destroys his current "movies". Holy shit, stuff he produces is dreadful.

    I guess people like him (and Depardieu) desperately need clout, and Putler desperately needs some celebs on his side. This is lowest of lows from these people. At least guys like Berlusconi have been well known clowns for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Ye, I have recently discovered a channel that destroys his current "movies". Holy shit, stuff he produces is dreadful.
    SpaceIce? If so I recently finished catching up on all those, it's delightful.

    Ye, I have recently discovered a channel that destroys his current "movies". Holy shit, stuff he produces is dreadful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Putler desperately needs some celebs on his side.
    "celebs"

    But hey, my 90+ year old grandmother who can't hear shit and has cognitive issues loves his movies (the older ones before the hair plugs). So he's got at least two fans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    SpaceIce? If so I recently finished catching up on all those, it's delightful.

    "celebs"

    But hey, my 90+ year old grandmother who can't hear shit and has cognitive issues loves his movies (the older ones before the hair plugs). So he's got at least two fans!
    Ye, Space Ice.

    Putler can't be a chooser, unfortunately for him. No other sane celebs will support him, he can only count now on these old, swollen, faded out actors.
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    Man, lots of smoking accidents lately. Hope to see these numbers increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm still not sure how he ever had a career to be honest. Or how he makes money nowadays. His movies are mostly just him showing up to mumble a few lines and wave his hands around while they get someone who sounds nothing like him to dub 3/4ths of his lines and his body double half his size (very obviously not him) to handle everything from kicking higher than the knee to the death-defying scenes of "walking down a hallway".

    If you haven't watched the videos of his martial arts "displays", highly recommend. They're 10/10 shit.
    "Action heroes" like Seagal, Norris, Arnold, Van Damme etc have a very strange and powerful influence in the former eastern block countries. As do TV shows like Miami Vice and whatnot. Especially with Gen Xers and even millennials.

    What happened was that while in the west these guys had time to either burn out their careers by the 90s to late 90s the eastern block completely missed out on the "B movie action hero" era. They got all those junk movies in a single wave of brain rotting crap, so all that junk was on their TV 24/7. Remember they went from 1 TV channel doing part time daily programming 2/3 of which was either state propaganda, documentaries and children's shows to 50 channels rotting their brains with every single Western TV show, B movie, Porn flick etc made between 1970 and 1990. They all sat in front of their TVs, their window into the "West" and ate it up.

    There's like 2 or 3 generations of Russian men (and a lot of other Eastern European men) whose entire idea of "masculinity" is derived from 80's action movies.

    While people like Arnold etc had careers and lives and interests beyond that era, Seagal is basically just living off the nostalgia of Eastern Europeans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    "Action heroes" like Seagal, Norris, Arnold, Van Damme etc have a very strange and powerful influence in the former eastern block countries. As do TV shows like Miami Vice and whatnot.

    What happened was that while in the west these guys had time to either burn out their careers by the 90s to late 90s the eastern block completely missed out on the "B movie action hero" era. They got all those junk movies in a single wave of brain rotting crap, so all that junk was on their TV 24/7. Remember they went from 1 TV channel doing part time daily programming 2/3 of which was either state propaganda, documentaries and children's shows to 50 channels rotting their brains with every single Western TV show, B movie, Porn flick etc made between 1970 and 1990. They all sat in front of their TVs, their window into the "West" and ate it up.

    There's like 2 or 3 generations of Russian men (and a lot of other Eastern European men) whose entire idea of "masculinity" is derived from 80's action movies.

    While people like Arnold etc had careers and lives and interests beyond that era, Seagal is basically just living off the nostalgia of Eastern Europeans.
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    this isn't a steven seagall thread, so I won't add much to it, but I wonder what it'd feel like to have an honor bestowed upon you like that. One that cements you've essentially betrayed your home country for Russia, forever.
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