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    I don't follow twitter other than clicking on twitter links found here and other forums/news sites. I have casually, very casually, been looking for the said video : No go.

    *shrug*

    I don't really care about it, but, just thought I would throw it out there.

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    And over on RT, the Skank has a new comedy routine - apparently the UK is spending so much on Ukraine that there are food shortages and restaurants are now serving squirrel.

    So what she is actually saying is that russia is spending so much that they are having shortages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    And over on RT, the Skank has a new comedy routine - apparently the UK is spending so much on Ukraine that there are food shortages and restaurants are now serving squirrel.

    So what she is actually saying is that russia is spending so much that they are having shortages.
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    A USAF General has confirmed that Ukraine now has JDAMs, which is a cheap and plentiful kit that converts dumb bombs into precision glide bombs that can hit targets at up to 45 miles away.

    There had been some speculation previous they might have it after some recent strikes on russian positions that were a little too big for artillery or HIMARs. The HIMARs rockets which have been causing so many problems for russia have a 200lb warhead. The JDAM kits can be fitted to 500lb, 1000lb or 2000lb bombs, which is a serious upgrade over artillery shells or HIMARS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    And over on RT, the Skank has a new comedy routine - apparently the UK is spending so much on Ukraine that there are food shortages and restaurants are now serving squirrel.

    So what she is actually saying is that russia is spending so much that they are having shortages.
    At least they're getting a half-truth with this with shortages of certain veg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    What a monumentally stupid hill to die on. Good luck with the mental recovery during your vacation, I guess.
    They’ve gone super hostile and it’s fucking wild.
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    European and US intelligence officials have obtained tentative intelligence to suggest a pro-Ukrainian saboteur group may have been behind the bombing of the Nord Stream gas pipelines last year

    In a rare moment of agreement both Ukraine and the kremlin deny this.

    "Kremlin dismisses tentative intelligence from European and US agencies as a bid by the perpetrators to divert attention".
    Obviously for different reasons...

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    Even if the Ukrainians are responsible for blowing up Nord Stream, they frankly did all of us and especially Germany a collective favor by putting another nail in the coffin on the dependence on Russian gas. A year and a half ago the notion that Europe could unhook itself from Russian energy would have been considered a far fetched ridiculous notion, and people would have said even attempting it would ruin Europe.

    Well...Here we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    Even if the Ukrainians are responsible for blowing up Nord Stream, they frankly did all of us and especially Germany a collective favor by putting another nail in the coffin on the dependence on Russian gas. A year and a half ago the notion that Europe could unhook itself from Russian energy would have been considered a far fetched ridiculous notion, and people would have said even attempting it would ruin Europe.
    A very questionable way to frame it, to say the least.

    First off, it's entirely speculative to say that the Ukrainian Government was involved, however if it was, then i just ask myself whether they actually thought this through, because:
    Nordstream 2 is closed on a technicality and only partially damaged, it could still deliver some gas if Germany really wanted it.

    Furthermore, this would massively damage their reputation within Germany.
    Keep in mind, this whole reluctance of Germany towards aiding Ukraine isn't just purely economically from the top to get cheap gas, but also has support in Germany, especially the former GDR states.
    There, supporting Ukraine is rather unpopular, such a move would massively boost the narrative that Germany should not get further involved.
    And to further throw something onto the pile, there's going to be state elections exactly in those areas this / next year, where the parties that are rather Russia friendly would likely turn out to become the strongest faction within the state parliament.
    At which point they would gain further power to delay / reduce aid for Ukraine.

    Germany may not give as much as other nations in relative terms, but in absolute terms, they're giving Ukraine still quite a lot (barring the US obviously).

    And that's just within Germany, this would be also fodder for any US Representative seeking to reduce / end aid for Ukraine if they commit sabotage on states that are even on friendly terms with them.

    I think the underlying theme of this war is, as it is often, that the ends do not justify the means.
    Implying that it's somehow acceptable for Ukraine to sabotage infrastructure of nations to force a continued support for them is dangling very close to terrorism.

    The only way for this to remotely make sense from an official ukrainian position would be if they had information that Germany was about to sell them out and thus wanted to shut the whole thing down, which is entirely speculative.
    But the damage it would do to Ukraine's reputation is tremendous, which is obviously fucking dangerous for a country that is completely reliant on foreign aid to continue this war.
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    I'm 110% fine with it if it was Ukraine that blew up the pipeline. I don't believe they did tho.

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    Just to interject: "Pro-Ukrainian" does not necessarily mean "Ukrainian". The details are sketchy at best. It could just as easily been pro-Ukraine Russians (yes, they exist, albeit in the minority) or other nationalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Just to interject: "Pro-Ukrainian" does not necessarily mean "Ukrainian". The details are sketchy at best. It could just as easily been pro-Ukraine Russians (yes, they exist, albeit in the minority) or other nationalities.
    or the dutch seceretly did, so they can sell more gas to Germany? :5head thinking:

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    I see we don't need Yuppie to make this thread go bananaz.
    I think Orange is having a breakdown because I noticed he was harassing someone else in another thread.

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    Peter Zeihan talks the war, Russia, the US, globalism, demographics, and the world economic effects of the next 30 years.



    I dunno too much about a lot of this stuff admittedly, beyond what little I've researched, but this guy seems pretty knowledgeable about what he's talking about. Overall I'd assume it's a good video. But please do tell me what sorts of vehement disagreements you have with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Peter Zeihan talks the war, Russia, the US, globalism, demographics, and the world economic effects of the next 30 years.



    I dunno too much about a lot of this stuff admittedly, beyond what little I've researched, but this guy seems pretty knowledgeable about what he's talking about. Overall I'd assume it's a good video. But please do tell me what sorts of vehement disagreements you have with it.
    His episode on Joe Rogan is worth watching completely through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    His episode on Joe Rogan is worth watching completely through.
    joe rogan on page 1488 nice.

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    Zeihan has a bit of a mixed reputation. He has been predicting the collapse of China for years now.

    Back to the whole squirrel eating thing, I've seen a number of people talking about this and how it is all for internal messaging. And that message is that russians better prepare for serious shortages in support of the war. They had better get used to living on cabbage stew and porridge again (even as pootie continues to chow down on caviar and other luxuries) because they are russians and they have to sacrifice to support pooties war. If those soft foreigners are willing to eat squirrel to continue supporting Ukraine, the russians can out-suffer them.

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    Germany says the nord-stream blast could have been a false flag attack to try and smear Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Germany says the nord-stream blast could have been a false flag attack to try and smear Ukraine.
    ok, sure, I can believe it, but who would have done it then? Because RUSSIA denies it was Ukraine. If russia was going all in on this I'd understand Germany's stance. But now the question is who is smearing Ukraine? Because it isn't russia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    ok, sure, I can believe it, but who would have done it then? Because RUSSIA denies it was Ukraine. If russia was going all in on this I'd understand Germany's stance. But now the question is who is smearing Ukraine? Because it isn't russia...
    For now at least. russia has tried blaming a number of different actors previous, the current one being the US. They can easily change again.

    The tankies are certainly using it to smear Ukraine though, saying it is proof the US support for Ukraine must end.

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    Large scale missile strike going on, the first in a few weeks. Reportedly a lot are flying through Moldovan airspace to hit western Ukraine, in an effort to evade Ukrainian air defence.

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    From reports coming in, this is a massive attack hitting all parts of Ukraine, north, south east and west including dangerously close to the Romanian and Polish borders.

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    Strikes are still happening. Fark.

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    And still ongoing. This has lasted for hours and is targeting every part of the country with cruise and ballistic missiles. Including Iskander ballistic missiles launched from Belarus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    For now at least. russia has tried blaming a number of different actors previous, the current one being the US. They can easily change again.

    The tankies are certainly using it to smear Ukraine though, saying it is proof the US support for Ukraine must end.

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    Large scale missile strike going on, the first in a few weeks. Reportedly a lot are flying through Moldovan airspace to hit western Ukraine, in an effort to evade Ukrainian air defence.

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    From reports coming in, this is a massive attack hitting all parts of Ukraine, north, south east and west including dangerously close to the Romanian and Polish borders.

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    Strikes are still happening. Fark.

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    And still ongoing. This has lasted for hours and is targeting every part of the country with cruise and ballistic missiles. Including Iskander ballistic missiles launched from Belarus.
    That is an act of war no?

    So legally, Belarus has entered the war. Which implies Belarus is now a valid military target.
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