Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

It is purely so for me, because the so-called rules of war seem to always favor the marauding band of rapist orcs, the attackers, while western bureaucracy is so goddamn slow that the ukrainian civilians pay with their blood for our failure to help when we clearly have the overwhelming strenght to do so.

Russia can do whatever the fuck they want while limp-dicked bureaucrats twiddle their thumbs with long decades of useful idiots that have infiltrated all forms of goverment. And we can't do shit, because we are oh so democratic and free that we do not see the forest from the trees, as finns would say.

Russians can speed up the slaughter of civilians, but if we speed up our military intervention, be it in form of aid or direct troops, we escalate the war. This world deserves to burn in hellfire.

And preferably once Ukraine wins, including Crimea, Russia should burn for a century as a lesson because clearly, violence is ALWAYS the answer for all problems.

Yeah...the problem is that if you want to keep the moral high ground you need to abide by the rules, if your military tradition already is lousy (russian) then you don't care and can just ignore all the rules, it's shitty but what can you do? Lowering ourselves to their standards isn't an option.

After the war russia should be very contrite and humble, and friggign teach their history for once. WWII didn't start in 1941 you absolute basterds. (conveniently AFTER the Winter War and the invasion of Poland...)

[jonnysensible]

It is purely so for me, because the so-called rules of war seem to always favor the marauding band of rapist orcs, the attackers, while western bureaucracy is so goddamn slow that the ukrainian civilians pay with their blood for our failure to help when we clearly have the overwhelming strenght to do so.

Russia can do whatever the fuck they want while limp-dicked bureaucrats twiddle their thumbs with long decades of useful idiots that have infiltrated all forms of goverment. And we can't do shit, because we are oh so democratic and free that we do not see the forest from the trees, as finns would say.

Russians can speed up the slaughter of civilians, but if we speed up our military intervention, be it in form of aid or direct troops, we escalate the war. This world deserves to burn in hellfire.

And preferably once Ukraine wins, including Crimea, Russia should burn for a centure as a lesson because clearly, violence is ALWAYS the answer for all problems.

yea should be the other way round, everything russia does is escalation and provoking us to fuck them up.

Good to see the germans step up think they have overtaken the UK in what they are giving now.

We should have no fly zoned at the start. Its the right of all democracies to crush dictators and kings imo, be it through violence or not.

Ukraine needs shells badly, probably the most important thing they can get right now. Allied countries should be pumping them out yesterday. Would also like to see the UK give more, nuclear countries really dont need to worry about giving away current stocks because well...we have nukes. First strike baby!

[KrayZ33]

ok, sure, I can believe it, but who would have done it then? Because RUSSIA denies it was Ukraine. If russia was going all in on this I'd understand Germany's stance. But now the question is who is smearing Ukraine? Because it isn't russia...

Poland for example... not saying I believe it was them (I believe it was the US tbh) but they have political and economic reasons to do it and the ships "supposedly" started from a polish harbor as well.

But if you want to listen to my consipiracy-theory, it was the US and they ordered Scholz to tell this specific story.

[Lynarii]

We should have no fly zoned at the start. Its the right of all democracies to crush dictators and kings imo, be it through violence or not.

The problem with this is that to enforce it you would need NATO aircraft with NATO pilots patrolling Ukrainian skies with orders to actively engage Russian targets. There really isn't even remotely close to the will in the US to commit to that, the Republicans would throw an absolute shit fit if the USAF shot down one of their boss' planes.

[The Stormbringer]

joe rogan on page 1488 nice.

Sometimes he has really good guests on. The episode with Bernie is definitely worth a watch.

[Gorsameth]

yea should be the other way round, everything russia does is escalation and provoking us to fuck them up.

Good to see the germans step up think they have overtaken the UK in what they are giving now.

We should have no fly zoned at the start. Its the right of all democracies to crush dictators and kings imo, be it through violence or not.

Ukraine needs shells badly, probably the most important thing they can get right now. Allied countries should be pumping them out yesterday. Would also like to see the UK give more, nuclear countries really dont need to worry about giving away current stocks because well...we have nukes. First strike baby!

A NATO no fly zones would require NATO to have complete air control over Ukraine which in turn would mean NATO would need to attack Russian AA sites on Russian soil who are in striking range of Ukraine.

A no fly zone would basically require we first fight WW3

[Gabriel]

A NATO no fly zones would require NATO to have complete air control over Ukraine which in turn would mean NATO would need to attack Russian AA sites on Russian soil who are in striking range of Ukraine.

A no fly zone would basically require we first fight WW3

It wouldn't be much of a world war.

[Kallisto]

It wouldn't be much of a world war.

Still would end up with everyone dead who wouldn't have a nuclear shelter. I know that doesn't bother you but for a good roughly 8 billion of us, yes that's a major issue.

[Iphie]

It wouldn't be much of a world war.

As much as we want to think that, I'd rather not test the hypothesis, even if I have shelter where I can go which can withstand some shit.


How sad, prig's been cut off.

Yeah, it's the Mirror, sue me.

[Gabriel]

Still would end up with everyone dead who wouldn't have a nuclear shelter. I know that doesn't bother you but for a good roughly 8 billion of us, yes that's a major issue.

Let's not do the nuke discussion again.

[zealo]

A NATO no fly zones would require NATO to have complete air control over Ukraine which in turn would mean NATO would need to attack Russian AA sites on Russian soil who are in striking range of Ukraine.

A no fly zone would basically require we first fight WW3

You're severely overestimating Russia's current capacity if you think Russia is in a position to fight anything resembling a world war against NATO.

They're not the soviet union at it's peak despite how much they aspire to become more than the regional has-been that is the Russian Federation.

[jonnysensible]

As much as we want to think that, I'd rather not test the hypothesis, even if I have shelter where I can go which can withstand some shit.


How sad, prig's been cut off.

Yeah, it's the Mirror, sue me.

quite funny if we go back to all the talk of him being on the rise, (from yuppie lol) ignoring the fact he exists purely at the whim of the Russian MOD.

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A NATO no fly zones would require NATO to have complete air control over Ukraine which in turn would mean NATO would need to attack Russian AA sites on Russian soil who are in striking range of Ukraine.

A no fly zone would basically require we first fight WW3

good lets do it.

[Iphie]

quite funny if we go back to all the talk of him being on the rise, (from yuppie lol) ignoring the fact he exists purely at the whim of the Russian MOD.

Oh I'm sure he was on the rise, but he became too cocky and putin is just taking out a threat, if one was conspiracy minded then the simultaneous illness of Kadyrov and the apparent fall from grace for the wankstain and prig could be seen as putin taking care of business AND taking some of the most ardent supporters of the war out so he can actually try to get out...

But that's probably just wishful thinking.

[jonnysensible]

Oh I'm sure he was on the rise, but he became too cocky and putin is just taking out a threat, if one was conspiracy minded then the simultaneous illness of Kadyrov and the apparent fall from grace for the wankstain and prig could be seen as putin taking care of business AND taking some of the most ardent supporters of the war out so he can actually try to get out...but that's probably just wishful thinking.

i mean wagner has no logistic capability without the MOD. They don't make their own artillery shells or ammo, just a bandit wing of the army. Not seen any evidence Kadyrov is actually ill.

Talking shit to the Russian MOD has been historically a bad idea. Also he has no political connections among the Russian political elite, not a chance of any rise beyond his own shameless self promotion. Saw war criminal Girkin saying that Prig should be tried for crimes against humanity, no honor among war criminals it seems.

[Iphie]

Saw war criminal Girkin saying that Prig should be tried for crimes against humanity, no honor among war criminals it seems.

The irony is thick...

I know prig had no standing, but his success might get him some support, not enough, but some. As for kady there's a photo doing the rounds where he's very bloated from a week or so ago.

Now, on that subject, has putin been seen recently? I can't recall when he last was sighted.

[Corvus]

Pootie only comes out for highly stage managed photo ops - and even then it might be body doubles.

[For_The_Horde]

Doesn't Putin just ride around Russia in his armored train? You know, like a proper Bond villain.

[enigma77]

still would end up with everyone dead who wouldn't have a nuclear shelter. I know that doesn't bother you but for a good roughly 8 billion of us, yes that's a major issue.

/summon @YUPPIE

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Doesn't Putin just ride around Russia in his armored train? You know, like a proper Bond villain.

Heh he's also just as stupid

[Corvus]

russia economy strong - if you ignore the fact it is having trouble paying salaries to state employees.

From rosstat in the article, salary debt at the end of December was 0, 10 million rubles at the end of January and 152 million rubles at the start of March. And that is just the state employees.

[Edge-]

russia economy strong - if you ignore the fact it is having trouble paying salaries to state employees.

From rosstat in the article, salary debt at the end of December was 0, 10 million rubles at the end of January and 152 million rubles at the start of March. And that is just the state employees.

Baghdad Bob would have had a very successful career if he'd ever made it to Russia.