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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Baghdad Bob would have had a very successful career if he'd ever made it to Russia.
    They already have many Baghdad Bob's: Lavrov, Peskov, Zakharova.....

  2. #29582
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Baghdad Bob would have had a very successful career if he'd ever made it to Russia.
    I'm not sure Bob would want to go to Russia nowadays.

  3. #29583
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    ok, sure, I can believe it, but who would have done it then? Because RUSSIA denies it was Ukraine. If russia was going all in on this I'd understand Germany's stance. But now the question is who is smearing Ukraine? Because it isn't russia...
    The keyword to Russian officialdom and their communications is chaos. They prefer muddy waters because they need an environment where nothing ever is proven one way or the other so people don't trust anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    As much as we want to think that, I'd rather not test the hypothesis, even if I have shelter where I can go which can withstand some shit.


    How sad, prig's been cut off.

    Yeah, it's the Mirror, sue me.
    Looks like they're running out of ammo and putting their offensive on "pause"

    If they don't get resupplied soon they'll likely have to withdraw, imagine if Bakhmut somehow holds. Would be embarassing for Russia.
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  5. #29585
    Another unintended consequence of Putin's 3 day operation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    The keyword to Russian officialdom and their communications is chaos. They prefer muddy waters because they need an environment where nothing ever is proven one way or the other so people don't trust anyone.
    Which has the unfortunate side effect of Russia itself not knowing what’s going on.

    Which I guess is normally fine when you’re just sort of leading a tin-pot dictatorship where all that really matters is that the raw material exports keep flowing. But when they choose to enter a war where things like… logistics, strategy, and supplies become important it’s really quite detrimental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Looks like they're running out of ammo and putting their offensive on "pause"

    If they don't get resupplied soon they'll likely have to withdraw, imagine if Bakhmut somehow holds. Would be embarassing for Russia.
    To be honest prig should see the writing on the wall: he's NEVER going to be accepted or allowed anywhere near the big chair.

  8. #29588
    The mess inside the Russian government and the lack of clear unified government policy or clearly defined roles for various agencies and branches is a feature of governments built around a strongman.

    We have seen this in Nazi Germany, we have seen it Stalin's Soviet Union, we can see it in Iran, Egypt etc.

    There's a regular army, and various "state security armies" SS, NKVD, Revolutionary Guards etc.

    Multiple parallel ministries, logistics chains, obscure contracting services etc.

    This mess is necessary to prevent any branch of the government or specific minister or oligarch from accumulating too much influence and threaten the position of his rivals. So the strongman sits at the top, lording over his minions, pitting them against each other and forcing them to compete for his approval and attention which becomes the only path for personal advancement.

    With other words, the mess is not a bug, it's a feature.

    Would it benefit the Russian war effort to unfuck the clusterfuck? Yes, that's what Stalin did, briefly when the Germans were at the gates of Moscow, he got out of the way and let the professionals run things for a while until they won him the war, but unlike Stalin, Putin literally cannot do this because Russia isn't being invaded by a genocidal horde of racist maniacs that managed to make him look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    To be honest prig should see the writing on the wall: he's NEVER going to be accepted or allowed anywhere near the big chair.
    It's suits Putin to slap down Prig right now because Prig got too rowdy and uppity, tho if he's smart and sucks Putin's balls again for a while and Gerasimov manages to fuck up badly enough (which is inevitable) Prig might just make a come back.

    Plus the Kremlin still needs Wagner for their little African side projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    It's suits Putin to slap down Prig right now because Prig got too rowdy and uppity, tho if he's smart and sucks Putin's balls again for a while and Gerasimov manages to fuck up badly enough (which is inevitable) Prig might just make a come back.

    Plus the Kremlin still needs Wagner for their little African side projects.
    Prig is not smart enough for that, I would also like to float the idea that putin might be very...indisposed...

    We know rumours of putin's health being not what it used to be have been swirling about for a while, now imagine, for a moment, that putin is incapacitated and he physically cannot even answer the phone when prig calls so, in order to hide this, they block prig from everything. This is not without precedent in the Soviet Union.

    I have not prove of this obviously but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this would have happened.

    As for needing Wagner for the African sideprojects, yes they do, but they need WAGNER, not necessarily prig. Side note on that: "rUsSiA nEvEr CoLoNiZeD uS", yeah bitches keep telling yourselves that. (It really gets me how shortsighted some people are)

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    the russian MOD can take over wagner anytime they want lol

    its quite sad that africa is going to end up with badly built Chinese infrastructure thats already crumbling and russian mercs committing atrocities and stealing resources for the next 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Prig is not smart enough for that, I would also like to float the idea that putin might be very...indisposed...

    We know rumours of putin's health being not what it used to be have been swirling about for a while, now imagine, for a moment, that putin is incapacitated and he physically cannot even answer the phone when prig calls so, in order to hide this, they block prig from everything. This is not without precedent in the Soviet Union.

    I have not prove of this obviously but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this would have happened.

    As for needing Wagner for the African sideprojects, yes they do, but they need WAGNER, not necessarily prig. Side note on that: "rUsSiA nEvEr CoLoNiZeD uS", yeah bitches keep telling yourselves that. (It really gets me how shortsighted some people are)
    Didn't Stalin die after suffering a stroke and/or choking on his own vomit because no one wanted to risk waking him up and angering him because he told the guards not to wake him? And that doctors were terrified of treating him because of how he sent the best doctors in Russia to gulags as part of a purge?
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    So the story goes yes. Which usually is also a feature of the system when a paranoid leader gets older. I mean I've heard putin doesn't trust his doctors either nor the medication and doesn't want to change even if they have better results.

  13. #29593
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    I'm 110% fine with it if it was Ukraine that blew up the pipeline. I don't believe they did tho.


    This is the correct take on the matter. Good riddance.
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    The prig was either drunk or mad, putting out a video saying he was running for president.

    Not of russia though. It was for Ukraine.

    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...356391936?s=20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The prig was either drunk or mad, putting out a video saying he was running for president.

    Not of russia though. It was for Ukraine.

    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...356391936?s=20
    Or russian dumb fuck attempt at telling Putin that Prig is not gonna threaten his position. Shit propaganda aimed for dumb as rocks vatniks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Or russian dumb fuck attempt at telling Putin that Prig is not gonna threaten his position. Shit propaganda aimed for dumb as rocks vatniks.
    If putin has decided that prig wants his job it doesn't matter what prig attempts to tell him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    If putin has decided that prig wants his job it doesn't matter what prig attempts to tell him.
    Or it is aimed at the civilians for reason or another. No matter, like Twitter said, Prig is welcome to send his application for Hague.

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    Better facilities than I would like but still, he's welcome to them. Scheveningen prison.

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    Prig’s problem is that he himself isn’t really necessary to Russia so much as wagner as a whole.

    He might just get rewarded with a polonium enriched diet if Putin and his closest cronies thinks he’s becoming too much of a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Prig’s problem is that he himself isn’t really necessary to Russia so much as wagner as a whole.

    He might just get rewarded with a polonium enriched diet if Putin and his closest cronies thinks he’s becoming too much of a threat.
    I think he's mainly a threat to the people under putin. I think putin actually likes these rivalries. That why he allows Prig and Wagner after all.

    The guy who decides who should get ammo and equipment is Shoigu. That's Prig's main rival.

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