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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    As much as we want to think that, I'd rather not test the hypothesis, even if I have shelter where I can go which can withstand some shit.


    How sad, prig's been cut off.

    Yeah, it's the Mirror, sue me.
    quite funny if we go back to all the talk of him being on the rise, (from yuppie lol) ignoring the fact he exists purely at the whim of the Russian MOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    A NATO no fly zones would require NATO to have complete air control over Ukraine which in turn would mean NATO would need to attack Russian AA sites on Russian soil who are in striking range of Ukraine.

    A no fly zone would basically require we first fight WW3
    good lets do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    quite funny if we go back to all the talk of him being on the rise, (from yuppie lol) ignoring the fact he exists purely at the whim of the Russian MOD.
    Oh I'm sure he was on the rise, but he became too cocky and putin is just taking out a threat, if one was conspiracy minded then the simultaneous illness of Kadyrov and the apparent fall from grace for the wankstain and prig could be seen as putin taking care of business AND taking some of the most ardent supporters of the war out so he can actually try to get out...

    But that's probably just wishful thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Oh I'm sure he was on the rise, but he became too cocky and putin is just taking out a threat, if one was conspiracy minded then the simultaneous illness of Kadyrov and the apparent fall from grace for the wankstain and prig could be seen as putin taking care of business AND taking some of the most ardent supporters of the war out so he can actually try to get out...but that's probably just wishful thinking.
    i mean wagner has no logistic capability without the MOD. They don't make their own artillery shells or ammo, just a bandit wing of the army. Not seen any evidence Kadyrov is actually ill.

    Talking shit to the Russian MOD has been historically a bad idea. Also he has no political connections among the Russian political elite, not a chance of any rise beyond his own shameless self promotion. Saw war criminal Girkin saying that Prig should be tried for crimes against humanity, no honor among war criminals it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    Saw war criminal Girkin saying that Prig should be tried for crimes against humanity, no honor among war criminals it seems.
    The irony is thick...

    I know prig had no standing, but his success might get him some support, not enough, but some. As for kady there's a photo doing the rounds where he's very bloated from a week or so ago.

    Now, on that subject, has putin been seen recently? I can't recall when he last was sighted.

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    Pootie only comes out for highly stage managed photo ops - and even then it might be body doubles.

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    Doesn't Putin just ride around Russia in his armored train? You know, like a proper Bond villain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kallisto View Post
    still would end up with everyone dead who wouldn't have a nuclear shelter. I know that doesn't bother you but for a good roughly 8 billion of us, yes that's a major issue.

    /summon @YUPPIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    Doesn't Putin just ride around Russia in his armored train? You know, like a proper Bond villain.
    Heh he's also just as stupid
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    russia economy strong - if you ignore the fact it is having trouble paying salaries to state employees.

    From rosstat in the article, salary debt at the end of December was 0, 10 million rubles at the end of January and 152 million rubles at the start of March. And that is just the state employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    russia economy strong - if you ignore the fact it is having trouble paying salaries to state employees.

    From rosstat in the article, salary debt at the end of December was 0, 10 million rubles at the end of January and 152 million rubles at the start of March. And that is just the state employees.
    Baghdad Bob would have had a very successful career if he'd ever made it to Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Baghdad Bob would have had a very successful career if he'd ever made it to Russia.
    They already have many Baghdad Bob's: Lavrov, Peskov, Zakharova.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Baghdad Bob would have had a very successful career if he'd ever made it to Russia.
    I'm not sure Bob would want to go to Russia nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    ok, sure, I can believe it, but who would have done it then? Because RUSSIA denies it was Ukraine. If russia was going all in on this I'd understand Germany's stance. But now the question is who is smearing Ukraine? Because it isn't russia...
    The keyword to Russian officialdom and their communications is chaos. They prefer muddy waters because they need an environment where nothing ever is proven one way or the other so people don't trust anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    As much as we want to think that, I'd rather not test the hypothesis, even if I have shelter where I can go which can withstand some shit.


    How sad, prig's been cut off.

    Yeah, it's the Mirror, sue me.
    Looks like they're running out of ammo and putting their offensive on "pause"

    If they don't get resupplied soon they'll likely have to withdraw, imagine if Bakhmut somehow holds. Would be embarassing for Russia.
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    Another unintended consequence of Putin's 3 day operation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    The keyword to Russian officialdom and their communications is chaos. They prefer muddy waters because they need an environment where nothing ever is proven one way or the other so people don't trust anyone.
    Which has the unfortunate side effect of Russia itself not knowing what’s going on.

    Which I guess is normally fine when you’re just sort of leading a tin-pot dictatorship where all that really matters is that the raw material exports keep flowing. But when they choose to enter a war where things like… logistics, strategy, and supplies become important it’s really quite detrimental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Looks like they're running out of ammo and putting their offensive on "pause"

    If they don't get resupplied soon they'll likely have to withdraw, imagine if Bakhmut somehow holds. Would be embarassing for Russia.
    To be honest prig should see the writing on the wall: he's NEVER going to be accepted or allowed anywhere near the big chair.

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    The mess inside the Russian government and the lack of clear unified government policy or clearly defined roles for various agencies and branches is a feature of governments built around a strongman.

    We have seen this in Nazi Germany, we have seen it Stalin's Soviet Union, we can see it in Iran, Egypt etc.

    There's a regular army, and various "state security armies" SS, NKVD, Revolutionary Guards etc.

    Multiple parallel ministries, logistics chains, obscure contracting services etc.

    This mess is necessary to prevent any branch of the government or specific minister or oligarch from accumulating too much influence and threaten the position of his rivals. So the strongman sits at the top, lording over his minions, pitting them against each other and forcing them to compete for his approval and attention which becomes the only path for personal advancement.

    With other words, the mess is not a bug, it's a feature.

    Would it benefit the Russian war effort to unfuck the clusterfuck? Yes, that's what Stalin did, briefly when the Germans were at the gates of Moscow, he got out of the way and let the professionals run things for a while until they won him the war, but unlike Stalin, Putin literally cannot do this because Russia isn't being invaded by a genocidal horde of racist maniacs that managed to make him look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    To be honest prig should see the writing on the wall: he's NEVER going to be accepted or allowed anywhere near the big chair.
    It's suits Putin to slap down Prig right now because Prig got too rowdy and uppity, tho if he's smart and sucks Putin's balls again for a while and Gerasimov manages to fuck up badly enough (which is inevitable) Prig might just make a come back.

    Plus the Kremlin still needs Wagner for their little African side projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    It's suits Putin to slap down Prig right now because Prig got too rowdy and uppity, tho if he's smart and sucks Putin's balls again for a while and Gerasimov manages to fuck up badly enough (which is inevitable) Prig might just make a come back.

    Plus the Kremlin still needs Wagner for their little African side projects.
    Prig is not smart enough for that, I would also like to float the idea that putin might be very...indisposed...

    We know rumours of putin's health being not what it used to be have been swirling about for a while, now imagine, for a moment, that putin is incapacitated and he physically cannot even answer the phone when prig calls so, in order to hide this, they block prig from everything. This is not without precedent in the Soviet Union.

    I have not prove of this obviously but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this would have happened.

    As for needing Wagner for the African sideprojects, yes they do, but they need WAGNER, not necessarily prig. Side note on that: "rUsSiA nEvEr CoLoNiZeD uS", yeah bitches keep telling yourselves that. (It really gets me how shortsighted some people are)

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    the russian MOD can take over wagner anytime they want lol

    its quite sad that africa is going to end up with badly built Chinese infrastructure thats already crumbling and russian mercs committing atrocities and stealing resources for the next 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Prig is not smart enough for that, I would also like to float the idea that putin might be very...indisposed...

    We know rumours of putin's health being not what it used to be have been swirling about for a while, now imagine, for a moment, that putin is incapacitated and he physically cannot even answer the phone when prig calls so, in order to hide this, they block prig from everything. This is not without precedent in the Soviet Union.

    I have not prove of this obviously but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this would have happened.

    As for needing Wagner for the African sideprojects, yes they do, but they need WAGNER, not necessarily prig. Side note on that: "rUsSiA nEvEr CoLoNiZeD uS", yeah bitches keep telling yourselves that. (It really gets me how shortsighted some people are)
    Didn't Stalin die after suffering a stroke and/or choking on his own vomit because no one wanted to risk waking him up and angering him because he told the guards not to wake him? And that doctors were terrified of treating him because of how he sent the best doctors in Russia to gulags as part of a purge?
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