Russian invasion of Ukraine

[D Luniz]

I'm wondering how they even get to film this and upload to YT. Don't they detain you for this?

too many cameras, not enough FSB agents to get them before they upload

[Edge-]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41095555.html

rofl, I guess Russia is looking for any win they can get.

The lads that rammed their jet into the drone after fucking up the fuel dumps are getting medals.

[zorkuus]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41095555.html

rofl, I guess Russia is looking for any win they can get.

The lads that rammed their jet into the drone after fucking up the fuel dumps are getting medals.

Take that inanimate object!

ruZZia stronk! It took only two incompetent pilots to take down a drone.

[Kallisto]

Russia: It didn't happen
Also Russia: Here's a medal anyway

[Corvus]

I expect the muscovy media to go apoplectic about pooties war crime charges. They know they are next.

Technically it means he can't travel many places, though I doubt he was going to anyway.

Wonder what winnie will make of it, going to see a wanted war criminal.

[Voidism]

I heard Turkey will allow American ship in to the Black Sea due to the incident.

[Breccia]

I know this is a war and not a game show or spectacle, but are none of you tired of how for a while now, there's nothing really new or crazy happening to warrant consistent discussion?

Are you asking if we're tired of...the lack of genocide?

This is an unprovoked war by a superpower into a neighbor, again, it's worldwide news, it deserves to be talked about. And speaking for everyone, none of us are begging for more violence or death because we're tired of nothing new. We're not psychopaths.

[YUPPIE]

Are you asking if we're tired of...the lack of genocide?

as clarified, no, not the lack of genocide or war crimes. The lack of any meaningful, escalated responses to said genocides.

Like recently, for instance, the ICC essentially put a bounty on Putin. Sounds wild on paper considering he's the head of a state and on the UN council. But the Russians laughed it off, and the rest of the world kind of shrugged because we know Putin isn't leaving Russia for that to matter. No meaningful action, just words.

[Kallisto]

as clarified, no, not the lack of genocide or war crimes. The lack of any meaningful, escalated responses to said genocides.

Like recently, for instance, the ICC essentially put a bounty on Putin. Sounds wild on paper considering he's the head of a state and on the UN council. But the Russians laughed it off, and the rest of the world kind of shrugged because we know Putin isn't leaving Russia for that to matter. No meaningful action, just words.

What do you think should happen? You can't risk a military conflict between two nuclear powers because if you lived through or studied the cold war you'd know how much of a stupid idea that is. I get you're desperate to die in WW3 (Or just a trolling sealion for this thread), but the rest of us are not.

[YUPPIE]

What do you think should happen?

well, instead of saying we should outright go to war with Russia, let's discuss their advantage in this situation.

They know we won't declare war, and thus that's why they metaphorically poke the dog (US) in petty ways repeatedly; we see this with the drone collision recently. That's also why Russia feels like it can commit genocide with the child abductions (among others) since we just talk talk talk but won't take action.

The only thing we can hope for is to starve their civilians through sanctions until they try to revolt or the state collapses internally, but how Russia is doing economically is kind of vague through their misinformation campaigns and the vatniks abroad. The poster last page implied Russia isn't doing too hot, others (pro Russian channels) boast the sanctions "have done nothing." And as it is now, Russia is still standing with no signs of a revolt. That's why I believe they're doing fine economically since no one will sit around to starve.

[draynay]

That's why I believe they're doing fine economically since no one will sit around to starve.

Errr... someone is sounding like they don't know Russian or Ukrainian history with that remark. Not surprised.

[Elder Millennial]

as clarified, no, not the lack of genocide or war crimes. The lack of any meaningful, escalated responses to said genocides.

Like recently, for instance, the ICC essentially put a bounty on Putin. Sounds wild on paper considering he's the head of a state and on the UN council. But the Russians laughed it off, and the rest of the world kind of shrugged because we know Putin isn't leaving Russia for that to matter. No meaningful action, just words.

-This hasn't escalated into WW3 and a nuclear holocaust, I'm bored.

Yuppie.

[jonnysensible]

yuppie this war has another 4 or 5 years in it yet. Strap in.

[YUPPIE]

yuppie this war has another 4 or 5 years in it yet. Strap in.

so when zelenksy said 'we could win the war by the end of 2023 with enough support" he was bullshitting?

[Calfredd]

so when zelenksy said 'we could win the war by the end of 2023 with enough support" he was bullshitting?

How do you always read too much into simple statements and take sarcastic messages literally?

[YUPPIE]

How do you always read too much into simple statements and take sarcastic messages literally?

because I don't play around as a person, sorry.

When he said "4-5 more years" that had a lot of implications about the state of our media outlets. Right now you hear all the time of how Russian forces are being decimated; how they're both losing men and logistics/resources to continue.

4-5 years betrays that suggestion. That's a long time for an army to keep going if they're supposedly pushed to the brink right now.

[jonnysensible]

so when zelenksy said 'we could win the war by the end of 2023 with enough support" he was bullshitting?

yea he wants more gear and training and commitments so he can win. its like the 'war will be over by Christmas'.

In terms of the battlefield : If either side has enough forces for on offensive in the summer it might change things slightly in their favor. This requires troops/ammo/armour and the ability to degrade the over side extensively for a breakthrough.

Can either side do that? No idea because we have very little idea about the state of each sides forces other than alot of people are being killed daily, russia is losing more men and materials than ukraine. Thats about it.

So does the war end this year? If Ukraine breakthrough in the south things will look pretty good for them. If they can't then and the Russians can't seem to move its lines for the 5km forwards or backwards so the meat grinder will go on.

Things to look out for are another mobilisation in Russia. Long range drones homebrewed in Ukraine, to attack the black sea fleet. (that would be really cool).

And remember war ends in 2 ways, negotiations or you kill so many of your enemy they stop fighting.

Ukraine arent giving up anytime soon and arent negotiating against their own genocide. So they war will go on.

[Gabriel]

I... I sort of thought it was a bit meme-ish to call the ruski tactics "human wave" tactics, but I... just saw a drone video of 50 or so vatniks trying to run over a field in a straight line and all get wiped out by artillery fire.

[enigma77]

I... I sort of thought it was a bit meme-ish to call the ruski tactics "human wave" tactics, but I... just saw a drone video of 50 or so vatniks trying to run over a field in a straight line and all get wiped out by artillery fire.

Please share this video with me, for research purposes.

[Gabriel]

Please share this video with me, for research purposes.

The thread I saw it in got removed and I didn't save it.