Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

I... I sort of thought it was a bit meme-ish to call the ruski tactics "human wave" tactics, but I... just saw a drone video of 50 or so vatniks trying to run over a field in a straight line and all get wiped out by artillery fire.

You gotta wonder what's going through their minds...other than shrapnel of course.

[Xyonai]

I... I sort of thought it was a bit meme-ish to call the ruski tactics "human wave" tactics, but I... just saw a drone video of 50 or so vatniks trying to run over a field in a straight line and all get wiped out by artillery fire.

Someone hasn't learned that Zealot rushes don't work IRL.

[YUPPIE]

I... I sort of thought it was a bit meme-ish to call the ruski tactics "human wave" tactics, but I... just saw a drone video of 50 or so vatniks trying to run over a field in a straight line and all get wiped out by artillery fire.

it's not memeish (the believability of the strategy), and also it is very much a genuine threat. I mean yeah those 50 mooks turned to paste running in a line like that, but that's what they do: 50 (minimum here) cannon fodder perish and then another 100 roll in, they all die, then the next 500 roll in, etc. All until they gain the ground they want.

[Corvus]

Seems pootie doesn't like being charged with being a war criminal - muscovy is saying they are ready for the proposals of the West and Ukraine about ending the war but only if all sanctions and lawsuits in international bodies against Russia are dropped.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...526121987?s=20

[Fuiking]

it's not memeish (the believability of the strategy), and also it is very much a genuine threat. I mean yeah those 50 mooks turned to paste running in a line like that, but that's what they do: 50 (minimum here) cannon fodder perish and then another 100 roll in, they all die, then the next 500 roll in, etc. All until they gain the ground they want.

yeah, great that worked in WW2 but wont work here. Have you seen the demographics of Russia?

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Seems pootie doesn't like being charged with being a war criminal - muscovy is saying they are ready for the proposals of the West and Ukraine about ending the war but only if all sanctions and lawsuits in international bodies against Russia are dropped.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...526121987?s=20

I wont trust them to backstab everyone once sanctions and lawsuits are dropped.

Trust is a dagger in the dark, trust is the whisper of death, trusting RuZZians right now is suicide.

[callipygoustp]

it's not memeish (the believability of the strategy), and also it is very much a genuine threat. I mean yeah those 50 mooks turned to paste running in a line like that, but that's what they do: 50 (minimum here) cannon fodder perish and then another 100 roll in, they all die, then the next 500 roll in, etc. All until they gain the ground they want.

Or die.

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[ringpriest]

Or die.

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Even if they just charge and die, that's ammunition and other materiel expended, more wear and tear on Ukrainian equipment, that much less rest for the Ukrainian soldiers who have to face them. It wears down the defenses, and eventually results in small gains for the Russian side. Trading men for such small slices of ground seems beyond WWI-level insanity, especially when Putin doesn't seem to currently have any forces capable of exploiting a breach. But that is life and death under a regime like Putin's. Reality doesn't matter, just that his immediate subordinates can report "good news" of some sort, even if it's by paying a great Pyrrhic cost for small gains.

[Canpinter]

yeah, great that worked in WW2 but wont work here. Have you seen the demographics of Russia?.

It honestly might work, Ukraine is still suffering casualties and Russia can afford to lose a lot more men the Ukraine.

[zealo]

It honestly might work, Ukraine is still suffering casualties and Russia can afford to lose a lot more men the Ukraine.

What Russia can afford is not limitless if they want to stumble out on the other end as a functional state with their country.

The soviet union of the early 20th century (and the Russian empire before it for that matter) had demographics that on average were a much younger country than Russia is now, their ability to absorb similar shocks to their demographic prospects isn't the same.

[Makabreska]

What Russia can afford is not limitless if they want to stumble out on the other end as a functional state with their country.

The soviet union of the early 20th century (and the Russian empire before it for that matter) had demographics that on average were a much younger country than Russia is now, their ability to absorb similar shocks to their demographic prospects isn't the same.

And not to mention that terror apparatus was sooooo much greater under Stalin, making any push backs much less likely.

[Collegeguy]

Seems pootie doesn't like being charged with being a war criminal - muscovy is saying they are ready for the proposals of the West and Ukraine about ending the war but only if all sanctions and lawsuits in international bodies against Russia are dropped.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...526121987?s=20

Key here is arrest warrant on Maria Lvova-Belova for adopting one of the kidnapped children from Ukraine.

This is wonderful precedent that if any of these Russian adoption parents vacation out of Russia and are suspected, the west has swift probable cause put them under arrest also.

[Iphie]

What Russia can afford is not limitless if they want to stumble out on the other end as a functional state with their country.

The soviet union of the early 20th century (and the Russian empire before it for that matter) had demographics that on average were a much younger country than Russia is now, their ability to absorb similar shocks to their demographic prospects isn't the same.

The thing is they couldn't really absorb the loss of manpower as a result of WWII either, their fucked up demographics are a direct result of that war. If memory serves, and I was correctly informed, something like 80% of the men born in 1923 perished during the war, that is not something you can just absorb.

[Makabreska]

The thing is they couldn't really absorb the loss of manpower as a result of WWII either, their fucked up demographics are a direct result of that war. If memory serves, and I was correctly informed, something like 80% of the men born in 1923 perished during the war, that is not something you can just absorb.

8.7 million Russians died in WW2, according to Russian military. But ofc, since we learned not to believe ruskies, many other studies calculated it to be rather 14 million.

[Canpinter]

What Russia can afford is not limitless if they want to stumble out on the other end as a functional state with their country.

The soviet union of the early 20th century (and the Russian empire before it for that matter) had demographics that on average were a much younger country than Russia is now, their ability to absorb similar shocks to their demographic prospects isn't the same.

I hope your right.

[Iphie]

8.7 million Russians died in WW2, according to Russian military. But ofc, since we learned not to believe ruskies, many other studies calculated it to be rather 14 million.

That's just the soldiers...as far as I know the civilian casualties ran into the tens of millions.

[Elder Millennial]

And not to mention that terror apparatus was sooooo much greater under Stalin, making any push backs much less likely.

I wouldn't bet on the Russian's capacity to "push back". I legit think they'd all march into machine gun fire before they'd push for political change.

[Makabreska]

I wouldn't bet on the Russian's capacity to "push back". I legit think they'd all march into machine gun fire before they'd push for political change.

Well, when so many of them were fleeing the country to escape enlistment, that was a form of pushing back.

[YUPPIE]

Apparently, Germany will detain Putin if he sets foot there.

I feel like with the ICC news, this man is legitimately considered an international criminal now despite being the head of a state.

[Lahis]

Apparently, Germany will detain Putin if he sets foot there.

I feel like with the ICC news, this man is legitimately considered an international criminal now despite being the head of a state.

Well Putin is not setting foot on an enemy country anyways, so this is of little consequence.

[Wilian]

Well Putin is not setting foot on an enemy country anyways, so this is of little consequence.

What will be interesting will be his scheduled visit to South Africa for the BRICS meeting they're going to have in the summer. South Africa is signatory to the Rome Statute and obligated to arrest him if he goes.