Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

What will be interesting will be his scheduled visit to South Africa for the BRICS meeting they're going to have in the summer. South Africa is signatory to the Rome Statute and obligated to arrest him if he goes.

Myeah, but wouldn't diplomatic immunity be a bit of an issue?

[Saradain]

What will be interesting will be his scheduled visit to South Africa for the BRICS meeting they're going to have in the summer. South Africa is signatory to the Rome Statute and obligated to arrest him if he goes.

To be honest should add Peskov and Lavrov to the war criminal list, otherwise they'll just send 'em there. And to avoid disappointment, I fully predict South Africa ain't gonna touch Putin even if he personally would arrive.

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Myeah, but wouldn't diplomatic immunity be a bit of an issue?

Diplomatic immunity does not grant immunity for war crimes. Or so I read from finnish papers recently discussing the matter!

[YUPPIE]

I think the arrest warrants placed on Putin are honestly just talk/BS, unless they just send him back to Russia right after. If they hypothetically capture him and try to send him to the Hague or similar, what do they think is going to happen?

[Wilian]

Myeah, but wouldn't diplomatic immunity be a bit of an issue?

Sovereign immunty and to that extent diplomatic immunity do not shield you from ICC based warrant based on war crimes or crimes against humanity.

[Gorsameth]

I think the arrest warrants placed on Putin are honestly just talk/BS, unless they just send him back to Russia right after. If they hypothetically capture him and try to send him to the Hague or similar, what do they think is going to happen?

Ofcourse its PR. Putin isn't leaving Russia.
As for what would happen if he did get arrested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratko_Mladi%C4%87

[YUPPIE]

As for what would happen if he did get arrested

No. That is not what would happen if Putin ever got captured.

That man is nothing compared to Putin in terms of threat and influence. Russia would martyr Putin if he got captured.

[Calfredd]

No. That is not what would happen if Putin ever got captured.

That man is nothing compared to Putin in terms of threat and influence. Russia would martyr Putin if he got captured.

Good for you but keep your deification to a minimum.

[Corvus]

No. That is not what would happen if Putin ever got captured.

That man is nothing compared to Putin in terms of threat and influence. Russia would martyr Putin if he got captured.

Haha. No. Just look how fast they turned on Stalin and he had way more power and a way bigger cult of personality than pootie could ever dream of.

[Azadina]

What will be interesting will be his scheduled visit to South Africa for the BRICS meeting they're going to have in the summer. South Africa is signatory to the Rome Statute and obligated to arrest him if he goes.

If they refuse, perhaps they need some Freedom and Democracy imported to them.

[YUPPIE]

Putin has allegedly visited Mariupol since yesterday

And also, South Africa arresting one of their BRICs partners just sounds absurd.

[Kallisto]

BRICS is hardly unified. Hell I & C of BRICS despise each other.

[Edge-]

Older story but I just came across it.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-news-1317789/

ON ELECTION NIGHT 2016, former Fox News director Jack Hanick was in Moscow — attending a pro-GOP party, where the organizers unveiled a larger-than-life portrait of Donald Trump, with with a piercing blue-eyed gaze, painted on a stark black canvas.

Hanick sat for a video interview at that party, facing the heroic visage of the soon-to-be 45th president — a man who cheated on his third wife with an adult-film star. Hanick used his camera time to criticize an American candidate he insisted had betrayed traditional values: Hillary Clinton.

“Even though Clinton professes to be a Christian,” he said, “all of her policies are actually moving away from those positions.”

The United States was “losing its moral core and fiber,” Hanick continued. By contrast, he praised the moral awakening in the land led by Vladimir Putin. “Russia has been embracing Orthodox Christianity. This has been a major change. Russia is moving toward Christianity; America is moving away from Christianity.”

Today, this self-styled defender of moral fiber is jailed in London, awaiting extradition on charges he violated U.S. law by doing business with a Russian oligarch, Konstantin Malofeyev, sanctioned for his support of separatists in Ukraine. Specifically, Hanick is accused of standing up a Fox News clone in Moscow targeted at Russia’s religious right — and then lying to the FBI about the scope of his work. “Hanick knowingly chose to help Malofeyev spread his destabilizing messages,” said Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen, announcing the indictment last week. The charges put Hanick, 71, at risk of 25 years in prison. (He has not yet entered a plea and an attorney for Hanick could not be located.)

How did a high-level director who helped launch the preeningly patriotic Fox News get mixed up with a sanctioned oligarch? In short, Hanick — disillusioned with what he saw as the decay of traditional mores in America — came to see Russia as the keeper of the true, conservative flame. There was also a profit motive, of course. The indictment does not specify the terms of Hanick’s lucrative TV deal, but notes that it included a $5,000-a-month stipend for housing in Moscow.

Weird that Russia seems to have attracted young leftist idealists back in its early communist days, and no it attracts weird nationalistic conservatives. Also, rofl of course he's former Fox.

Most fitting thread for this news, wasn't sure where else to put it. Must be living large on $5K/month in Russia right now.

Anyways, it's a fairly lengthy article for anyone interested in the full story.

[Kaleredar]

Most fitting thread for this news, wasn't sure where else to put it. Must be living large on $5K/month in Russia right now.

...if he's still in jail as per the article he aint living large on anything.

[Corvus]

Still taking from a video of 'pootie' in Crimea before his so-called visit to Mariupol.



It could just be a weird optical illusion but that looks like someone in a mask.

[Iphie]

Still taking from a video of 'pootie' in Crimea before his so-called visit to Mariupol.



It could just be a weird optical illusion but that looks like someone in a mask.

pootin using a double in a mask? say it ain't so!

In all seriousness though it's possible, at this point I'm even willing to entertain the idea that pootin is incapacitated in some way and the kremlin is trying to hide it. The one thing speaking against it is Xi's upcoming visit, as I sincerely doubt they would dare to try and deceive the Chinese with a double.

[YUPPIE]

one of the most fascinating things in correlation with that picture is what I imagine Putin promises his subordinates and cronies in exchange for unwavering subservience. If he only commanded through the stick with no carrot, I'm sure he'd be dead by now. So what's the carrot to be complicit in war crimes and think it'll be worth it?

[DarkTZeratul]

one of the most fascinating things in correlation with that picture is what I imagine Putin promises his subordinates and cronies in exchange for unwavering subservience. If he only commanded through the stick with no carrot, I'm sure he'd be dead by now. So what's the carrot to be complicit in war crimes and think it'll be worth it?

Don't underestimate what judicious application of the stick can accomplish. Just look at North Korea.

[Vladier]

Don't underestimate what judicious application of the stick can accomplish. Just look at North Korea.

More importantly, sticks and carrots are subjective. An excessive implementation of a stick can make even a rotten nondescript root vegetable seem like the most succulent and sweet carrot in the world.

[Shadowferal]

Still taking from a video of 'pootie' in Crimea before his so-called visit to Mariupol. It could just be a weird optical illusion but that looks like someone in a mask.

Yea...but it could be Putin himself with a mask. He gets the makeup treatment when gets on TV, but I don't think he looks healthy in real life.

[Makabreska]

Yea...but it could be Putin himself with a mask. He gets the makeup treatment when gets on TV, but I don't think he looks healthy in real life.

ROFL it literally looks like he is holding to his face some cheap, Halloween Putler mask in his hand.