Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Elder Millennial]

so, what did Hitler succeed in besides causing death and ruination? He famously lost the game (world domination/new order), after all.

Putin seems to have lost the game as well, but he has doubtlessly caused death and ruination on a wide scale. He seems pretty identical to Hitler. What separates Putin from other dictators since Hitler to me is his aspirations for world domination rather than being content with lording over his little fiefdom. While Xi Jinping has caused destruction, he's yet to strike out globally the way Putin has.

I really do wonder...Where do you get these insanely stupid takes?

Yes, Putin is bad and genocidal and dictatorial etc, but what sets Hitler apart from pretty much any dictator in modern history was the ideology of Nazism. The insane racial hierarchies, the industrialized wholesale mass murder of people as a strategic objective. Most other genocides are byproducts of other broader objectives, with the Nazis and Hitler the mass murder was the objective.

Putin's objective is the subjugation of Ukraine or parts of it and the elimination of Ukrainian national identity in favor of the adoption of a Russian one. In the process he's willing to murder an indefinite number of people to achieve said objective. Hitler just wanted to murder all Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, Jews, Gypsies etc because they simply existed, that was the objective.

Can you please, please STOP FUCKING FANTASIZING ABOUT PUTIN, GENOCIDE AND NUCLEAR WAR? Everyone here is exhausted by your weird fetishes.

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Heard theories that Russia is very desperate in Ukraine. Especially with Bakhmut and tanks on the way. That is why Iran attacking with drones in Syria this week. Their hope is that escalations will sway the US politically in the region.

Sway in what way?

Get more US troops involved? Why would Iran want that, why would Iran want more US troops messing with the interests and bombing their shit? Get the US to leave the region and free up more assets to send to Ukraine? Why would Russia want that?

That makes exactly zero sense for anyone involved. The logical leap you have to make to connect Bakhmut to Syria is not a leap...It's lightspeed jump into a different solar system.

[Iphie]

so, what did Hitler succeed in besides causing death and ruination? He famously lost the game (world domination/new order), after all.

A succesful military campaign at first for one, his awful politics aside he actually did want what he thought was best for Germany and his domestic politics had merits: universal healthcare, discouraging smoking, and so on, it doesn't make him a good person but it's heaps and bounds better than the shithole putin is making of russia.

[jonnysensible]

A succesful military campaign at first for one, his awful politics aside he actually did want what he thought was best for Germany and his domestic politics had merits: universal healthcare, discouraging smoking, and so on, it doesn't make him a good person but it's heaps and bounds better than the shithole putin is making of russia.

'issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the terror group ISIL. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"'

cmon man

[Corvus]

Heard theories that Russia is very desperate in Ukraine. Especially with Bakhmut and tanks on the way. That is why Iran attacking with drones in Syria this week. Their hope is that escalations will sway the US politically in the region.

Well, yes, of course they are desperate. Their much vaunted winter offensive failed miserably and only left them weaker in time for when Ukraine kicks off their counter-offensive.

Though after having watched Ukraine wreck muscovy with old second hand western gear, anyone would be wary of starting anything against the US with its modern gear.

There is actually a bit more going on with Iran and the region. The Armenian-Azerbaijani situation is getting tense yet again - 2 russian 'peacekeepers' were reported shot recently by Azerbaijani troops and both sides are moving forces again. This time, however, Iran is directly threatening Azerbaijan in support of Armenia. Meanwhile Turkey and Israel are both backing Azerbaijan. Things could get messy, and Syria would probably get dragged in as well.

[Iphie]

'issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the terror group ISIL. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"'

cmon man

I am not responsible for your interpretation of my words.


They still have AMMO for these?! This is a joke, yes? Please tell me this isn't real because otherwise....

Katuyshas spotted

(seems they're for parades, but still...)

[LeGin v3]

My family in the UK is hosting (entering our 7th month) two refugees.

I'd be interested to hear from someone else who is hosting and what your feelings are (anonymously as opposed to the usual Facebook pages).

Personally, I'm sick and fucking tired of meaningless platitudes and second hand clothes. There's a lot of "thoughts and prayers" and less meaningful action e.g., offering to pay for exorbitant car insurance. It's beginning to piss me off now. Need other people to step up.

[YUPPIE]

Will they ever sanction Russia for nuclear rhetoric and fearmongering? It's downplayed in visibility here because you can't talk about it in earnest, but almost every other week they make some threat along those lines. No world power should be able to so flippantly make threats like that.

Today it's actually seemingly gotten the notice of the Ukrainians, who claim no one should ever be allowed to casually make such threats even if it's bluster. They demand something to be done about it already.

[Calfredd]

Will they ever sanction Russia for nuclear rhetoric and fearmongering? It's downplayed in visibility here because you can't talk about it in earnest,

Please. Just. Stop. Lying. There is nothing "earnest" about you. All you do is fearmonger and hero worship Putin (in before "But I'm not!") and keep pushing every line, every bluster, every bluff as though it were credible. We're talking about a man who claimed this invasion was just a 3-day exercise when it's been past a year since.

[alach]

To be fair, hes right...
Putin is for sure sabre rattling his nukes yet again.



https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/26/e...ntl/index.html

*fixed

[Iphie]

To be fair, hes right...
Putin is for sure sabre rattling his nukes yet again.

http://https://edition.cnn.com/2023/...ntl/index.html

Link's broken at the time of this posting.

[Kallisto]

Link's broken at the time of this posting.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/26/e...ntl/index.html seems like old link had an extra http at the start.

[Nymrohd]

Link's broken at the time of this posting.

Try this
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ss-2023-03-25/

[Corvus]

They already had nukes in kaliningrad so it doesn't really mean much.

[Gabriel]

NATO could deliver them some more nukes if they want.

[Flarelaine]

Ukraine Ammunition Supply Threatened by 'TikTok Cat Videos'

One of Europe's largest ammunition manufacturers has said it's unable to expand to meet new quotas and respond to Ukraine's increased demand because a nearby data center is using up all the electricity in the central Norway region to store TikTok videos.

The Norwegian group Nordic Ammunition Company, better known as Nammo, told the U.K. newspaper Financial Times that there's no surplus of energy for its Raufoss plant, where the new factory was planned.

The electricity of the region is being used up by a data center whose bigger client is TikTok.

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Brandtzæg said that he "can't rule out" that it's "not by pure coincidence" that the expansion of a European defense company was being blocked by the Chinese-owned social-media app.

[Gorsameth]

Ukraine Ammunition Supply Threatened by 'TikTok Cat Videos'

that sounds like complete bullshit.

[Iphie]

Russian talking heads are nuts

Seriously though how disconnected from reality can you be?

[Flarelaine]

that sounds like complete bullshit.

It does, but it's explained in the article.

[alach]

They already had nukes in kaliningrad so it doesn't really mean much.

The entire existence of Kalinngrad seems to undermine a lot of Putins grievances if you ask me.

Heres a good video about another Ukraine ammunition issue, but it is long, and goes back ten years.


https://youtu.be/2ileYB42X7c

[Iphie]

Hungary ratifies Finland's NATO bid

Now just Turkey left...