Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Breccia]

Turkey has voted for Finland's entry to NATO.

Came here to post this, thanks for being quicker on the draw.

Kiitos, NATO.

[zealo]

I apologize for not being too attentive to this thread anymore due to the lack of meaningful developments.

But does being on Russia's shitlist mean anything? Referring to the Hungary debacle, but I mean not in the sense of you being a little nation in the scope of a Russian invasion. I mean being put on Russia's "unfriendly" list, whatever that means.

Nobody around here misses your presence when you're "not being attentive", that you can be sure of.

[Iphie]

Hmm...does Finland now have to vote to let Sweden into NATO? I assume not, but technically Finland is now a member...

[Saradain]

Hmm...does Finland now have to vote to let Sweden into NATO? I assume not, but technically Finland is now a member...

Think Finland is not a full member yet but will be in whatever conference is coming in 2-3 months. And Sweden applied during a time Finland was not a member, hence why Finland's approval is not needed or required.

[Iphie]

Think Finland is not a full member yet but will be in whatever conference is coming in 2-3 months. And Sweden applied during a time Finland was not a member, hence why Finland's approval is not needed or required.

Figured as much, it just tickled my funny bone a bit.

[jonnysensible]

finland now is the time to retake Karelia

[Iphie]

finland now is the time to retake Karelia

Fuck no. Have you seen the crap state that area is in? 75+ years of neglect.

[Azadina]

finland now is the time to retake Karelia

It's a worthless wasteland now. As with anything RuZZia touches. Not to mention the Finnish welfare system really isn't in dire need of millions of people living in poverty, suddenly appearing to leech on the system.

[enigma77]

So, things that have demonstrably increased in strength since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine:

Russia- no
NATO- yes

But I’m sure this is all just some brilliant strategy on Russia’s part. @Ihavewaffles@Shalcker I’m sure you’d agree, no?

I love how they still lurk here, judging by their last activity statistics on their profiles.

[Gabriel]

Hmm...does Finland now have to vote to let Sweden into NATO? I assume not, but technically Finland is now a member...

I think the Finnish government worded the laws about Finland itself joining NATO as such that Sweden is automatically also accepted, so we wouldn't have to vote on it anymore.

Which is a shame. We should have extorted something out of Sweden for this. Nothing major. Maybe a statue saying how we are better or something.

Edit: saw some good suggestions on another forum:
* Sweden officially acknowledges in writing that Sauna was invented by Finland.
* The use of Swedish word for sauna, "bastu", is to be outlawed and replaced with the correct Finnish word instead.
* Sweden also acknowledges in writing that meatballs are also a Finnish invention.

[Rethul Ur No]

So, things that have demonstrably increased in strength since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine:

Russia- no
NATO- yes

But I’m sure this is all just some brilliant strategy on Russia’s part. @Ihavewaffles@Shalcker I’m sure you’d agree, no?

Genius and Savvy moves by Putin, wouldn't you say?

[zealo]

finland now is the time to retake Karelia

Finland doesn’t even want it. It’s would be a massive infrastructure bill waiting for them full of Russians.

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I think the Finnish government worded the laws about Finland itself joining NATO as such that Sweden is automatically also accepted, so we wouldn't have to vote on it anymore.

Which is a shame. We should have extorted something out of Sweden for this. Nothing major. Maybe a statue saying how we are better or something.

Edit: saw some good suggestions on another forum:
* Sweden officially acknowledges in writing that Sauna was invented by Finland.
* The use of Swedish word for sauna, "bastu", is to be outlawed and replaced with the correct Finnish word instead.
* Sweden also acknowledges in writing that meatballs are also a Finnish invention.

More reasonable than some Finns out there.

I’ve seen some of them suggest things like stripping Mats Sundin of his place in the hall of fame, which is just, hell no, not under any circumstances.

[Gabriel]

More reasonable than some Finns out there.

I’ve seen some of them suggest things like stripping Mats Sundin of his place in the hall of fame, which is just, hell no, not under any circumstances.

I'm a reasonable man, as everyone around here can attest to.

[Iphie]

I think the Finnish government worded the laws about Finland itself joining NATO as such that Sweden is automatically also accepted, so we wouldn't have to vote on it anymore.

Which is a shame. We should have extorted something out of Sweden for this. Nothing major. Maybe a statue saying how we are better or something.

Edit: saw some good suggestions on another forum:
* Sweden officially acknowledges in writing that Sauna was invented by Finland.
* The use of Swedish word for sauna, "bastu", is to be outlawed and replaced with the correct Finnish word instead.
* Sweden also acknowledges in writing that meatballs are also a Finnish invention.

They'll never go for this...

[Gabriel]

They'll never go for this...

It is a hill I could die on, but alas, we'll never have to fight that fight since we auto accepted Sweden.

[Gorsameth]

I suspect Finland will wait for Sweden to be officially ratified, since they always made it clear they were both entering or not at all.
And Sweden is still waiting on Hungary.

[Iphie]

I don't think that's how it works really, everything is in place for Finland to join except for the formal recognisition at the NATO summit. Finland has voted in favour of the law to ascend, everyone has ratified and that's the ballgame. Sweden and Finland have said "hand in hand" but lately Sweden and Finland have also said that if the case might be that they cannot join together then they are ok with different timetables.

[Gabriel]

I suspect Finland will wait for Sweden to be officially ratified, since they always made it clear they were both entering or not at all.
And Sweden is still waiting on Hungary.

That's not possible anymore. Like Iphie said, Finland already passed the law on joining. The only thing we are waiting for now is for the paperwork from Turkey to be sent to US and we're in.

[zealo]

I suspect Finland will wait for Sweden to be officially ratified, since they always made it clear they were both entering or not at all.
And Sweden is still waiting on Hungary.

Finland has a general election on sunday this week. They already passed legislation both for that and in support of Sweden’s nato accession ahead of that to not delay things.

[Twdft]

Genius and Savvy moves by Putin, wouldn't you say?

He remains a master strategist.