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    The Germans and soviets didn't use horses because they wanted to. They did so because, unlike the Americans and British, they didn't have enough vehicles to support their armies. And this is with the soviets receiving tens of thousands of trucks and other vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I'm a reasonable man, as everyone around here can attest to.
    Yeah, because everyone here are a bunch of reasonable people lol. Just like in the covid thread.
    These threads are good for studying hive mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    The areas that the fighting is in Horses do well because of all the spring/autumn muds. It doesn't look great but at the same time it can be effective.
    Way less effective than you’d think.

    Not only do horses require better care than just feeding on local grass to remain in healthy condition for heavy workloads, their operational range from railway junctions that still form the backbone of transports up closer to the front are a joke compared to motorized transports.

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    You mean a different hive mentality. You blindly follow "experts" with a contrarian opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    The areas that the fighting is in Horses do well because of all the spring/autumn muds. It doesn't look great but at the same time it can be effective.
    Neither you nor me is probably an expert on this. But why do farmers use tractors instead of horses?
    You'd think their is machinery created for this and for a reason - even more so when it comes to military purpose.

    That sounds like a lot of copium to me. Having to use horses just means it's getting desperate. It's better than nothing but certainly not a benefit compared to machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    Yeah, because everyone here are a bunch of reasonable people lol. Just like in the covid thread.
    These threads are good for studying hive mentality.
    Bit weird when you are the one parroting Russian propaganda ("Ukraine deserved to be invaded!").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Bit weird when you are the one parroting Russian propaganda ("Ukraine deserved to be invaded!").
    "Ukraine deserved to be invaded for committing crimes against a minority in their borders seeking self-determination" . . . Oh so . . . like Serbia?
    Last edited by Nymrohd; 2023-04-04 at 09:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Bit weird when you are the one parroting Russian propaganda ("Ukraine deserved to be invaded!").
    He's a Serbian nationalist iirc and he's a big fan of Putin and thinks NATO is evil for invading Serbia and stopping the genocide,he can be safely reported and ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    Yeah, because everyone here are a bunch of reasonable people lol. Just like in the covid thread.
    These threads are good for studying hive mentality.
    Lmao how's it feeling that NATO expands today? Angry? Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Lmao how's it feeling that NATO expands today? Angry? Good.
    He will be living inside of a NATO country himself too reasonably soon, dude must be fuming at the prospects of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    He will be living inside of a NATO country himself too reasonably soon, dude must be fuming at the prospects of that.
    You think Turkey will change their tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    You think Turkey will change their tune?
    Eventually, but Hungary is also a fly in the ointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Lmao how's it feeling that NATO expands today? Angry? Good.
    I don't care tbh. If NATO dared conflict with Russia and vice versa it would've happened already.
    Everyone's just flexing muscles but no one wants nukes to start going off.

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    Great day to be in NATO. Meanwhile, finnish parliament's website under ddos attack. That is the world some rotten berries desire, where you either obey, or face invasion. In Nazi Russia's case, ddos is the only form of invasion they can ever again direct at Finland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    You think Turkey will change their tune?
    Yeah, there's an election in Turkey in a couple of months, and there's an extremely good chance Erdogan's resistance to it is purely based on that he's scrambling to convince voters he shouldn't be sent out on his ass. Plus the opposition there has publicly stated they will seek to "reset" relations with the west.

    Orban isn't something to be all that worried about, he'll try to extort it to his advantage so long as it carries no real risk to Hungary, but they all know their position isn't anywhere near as critical to NATO as Turkey is, that's why they rushed to get it done once it started looking like Turkey was coming around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Yeah, there's an election in Turkey in a couple of months, and there's an extremely good chance Erdogan's resistance to it is purely based on that he's scrambling to convince voters he shouldn't be sent out on his ass. Plus the opposition there has publicly stated they will seek to "reset" relations with the west.

    Orban isn't something to be all that worried about, he'll try to extort it to his advantage so long as it carries no real risk to Hungary, but they all know their position isn't anywhere near as critical to NATO as Turkey is, that's why they rushed to get it done once it started looking like Turkey was coming around.
    To be honest there's not much advantage for Orban to oppose anymore, russia has already put them on the naughty list so it's not as if he can use it to get in putin's good graces. He's still a bit of a twatwaffle but you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    I don't care tbh. If NATO dared conflict with Russia and vice versa it would've happened already.
    Everyone's just flexing muscles but no one wants nukes to start going off.
    Stay mad and make more threads in the suggestions forum about how you are bullied for your bad opinions.


    Infracted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    To be honest there's not much advantage for Orban to oppose anymore, russia has already put them on the naughty list so it's not as if he can use it to get in putin's good graces. He's still a bit of a twatwaffle but you know.
    Also, what exactly are Putin's good graces worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Stay mad and make more threads in the suggestions forum about how you are bullied for your bad opinions.
    Not mad at all. I truly don't care about NATO expansion. Although a lot of people I know are mad about Sweden joining NATO and they are definitely not fans of Russia.
    It's only the hive mind in this forum that doesn't know what a different opinion is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    Not mad at all. I truly don't care about NATO expansion. Although a lot of people I know are mad about Sweden joining NATO and they are definitely not fans of Russia.
    It's only the hive mind in this forum that doesn't know what a different opinion is.
    Ever considered that maybe when everyone else has different opinion than you, you are the one that is wrong?

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