1. #30001
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    the reason I understandably have skepticism about its supposed iffy importance is that even Ukrainian intel has stated the fighting in Bahkmut is the bloodiest and most awful for a while now, with a ridiculous mortality rate relative to elsewhere.

    Why would Ukraine fight so hard for this place? I doubt they've suffered minor losses with all that's been said.
    Because that's where they get to kill the most russians and destroy the most russian equipment. D'uh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Because that's where they get to kill the most russians and destroy the most russian equipment. D'uh.
    an honorable thing in and of itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    an honorable thing in and of itself
    Let me be clear so nobody gets to bitch at me about this: I meant russian invaders. I'm not advocating for the genocide of all russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Let me be clear so nobody gets to bitch at me about this: I meant russian invaders. I'm not advocating for the genocide of all russians.
    Going soft in your old day? (DW I know you never advocated it, but I know of a fair few Finns who make no such distinction.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Going soft in your old day? (DW I know you never advocated it, but I know of a fair few Finns who make no such distinction.)
    I've been infracted for less.

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    I think most people would agree that any russian currently in Bahkmut is fair game. I suspect an extreme lack of peaceful civilian interaction left in that particular area.

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    So Prigozhin went fully against the Kremlin narrative it seems. Reporting that there's no NATO in Ukraine, no Nazis. Just Ukrainians and volunteers. Also that those in power were deluded if they ever thought NATO wouldn't supply Kyiv with weapons to defend itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    So Prigozhin went fully against the Kremlin narrative it seems. Reporting that there's no NATO in Ukraine, no Nazis. Just Ukrainians and volunteers. Also that those in power were deluded if they ever thought NATO wouldn't supply Kyiv with weapons to defend itself.
    I’ve seen this rumor, but haven’t found a primary source. Ya got some of that good stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    I’ve seen this rumor, but haven’t found a primary source. Ya got some of that good stuff?
    Let's start with these:

    https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.o...is-in-ukraine/

    https://www.euronews.com/2023/03/24/...nazi-narrative


    (granted these are probably biased but it is out there.)

    And this one:

    https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/st...03504932274181

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    Terribly sorry to hear about his upcoming accident.

    The good ones always go too soon.

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    India complains that Russia isn't delivering weapons it owes because it's throwing everything at Ukraine

    The Indian Air Force disclosed this week to its parliament that a "major delivery" contracted from Russia would not be showing up.


    Nuff said.

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    Think Russia is offering partial refunds for delayed deliveries? I'm honestly surprised that Russia didn't sell them stripped down hardware and then blame them for losing the missing parts.

  13. #30013
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Think Russia is offering partial refunds for delayed deliveries? I'm honestly surprised that Russia didn't sell them stripped down hardware and then blame them for losing the missing parts.
    I think the answer ranges from "not likely" to "when hell freezes over."

    Meanwhile, Czech citizens raise €1.2m to send rocket launcher and 365 missiles to Ukraine.

    Within a few weeks, a RМ-70 rocket launcher along and 365 missiles will be transferred to Ukraine from the Czech Republic. However, this is not part of and aid package from the government, but is the result of €1.2 million donations made by Czech citizens.

    The launcher can fire 40 missiles in 90 seconds and can reload exceptionally quickly.


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    We'll see who will run out of artillery first.

    The European Union's top diplomat says the 27-nation bloc and Norway have endorsed a fast-track procedure to supply badly-needed artillery shells to Ukraine

    Borrell said that he had won approval for his proposal to provide 1 billion euros ($1.1 billion) to encourage member nations to provide artillery shells from their stocks and any orders for new rounds that they might have placed with industry.

    A further 1 billion euros would also be used to fast-track new orders and encourage countries to work together on those purchases through the EDA or in groups of at least three nations. Germany has already called for countries to join its own effort, which Berlin believes will go faster.

    The third track of the program involves support to Europe’s defense industry. so that it can ramp up production in the longer term. EU officials have said that new joint orders could be placed by May if the plan is endorsed in its entirety.


    EU defense industry has lagged behind the US. This may be the shot that it needs to rejuvenate the industry.

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    Stuff like this also has the added benefit of more and more countries turning to the US for their defensive needs, the less countries in Russia/China's sphere of influence the better. It is just staggering out badly Russia has botched this entire thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Thanks, though I wish some more “main stream” sources showed this.

    I suppose real confirmation comes with his suicide of 3 gunshots to the back of the head…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    Thanks, though I wish some more “main stream” sources showed this.

    I suppose real confirmation comes with his suicide of 3 gunshots to the back of the head…
    I know, but i doubt 'main stream' will burn their hands on it unless they have him literally saying it on video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Welp spending the rest of his life in Africa isnt a bad life.

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    This has GOT to be not real...

    https://imgur.com/gallery/C8mFjtF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    This has GOT to be not real...

    https://imgur.com/gallery/C8mFjtF
    Never underestimate the power of russians to find new lows.

  20. #30020
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Never underestimate the power of russians to find new lows.
    videos from 2019 :

    'These T-34 tanks were sent to Russia from Laos in 2019 to be used in Victory Day parades and displayed in museums.'

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