Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Kaleredar]

My first thought is: How is Russia lying?

Well, of course. But I'm trying to introduce the concept of "critical thinking" to our self-admitted alcoholic conspiracy loon. Baby steps.

The notion that if what Russia says doesn't comport with reality they're probably just lying, and should be assumed to be lying until proof to the contrary comes to light. So far, the latter part of that... just hasn't happened.

[YUPPIE]

The Russians have launched a massive attack ahead of May 9th.

May 8 (Reuters) - Russia launched its biggest wave of drone strikes on Ukraine for months on Monday, escalating attacks in the run-up to its May 9 Victory Day holiday celebrating the defeat of Nazi Germany, which Kyiv marked a day earlier in a new break with Moscow.

Kyiv's mayor said Russia had fired 60 Iranian-made kamikaze drones at Ukrainian targets, including 36 at the capital, all of which had been shot down, although debris hit apartments and other buildings, injuring at least five people on the ground.

A food warehouse was set ablaze by a missile in the Black Sea city of Odesa, where officials reported three people were injured.

It was the biggest drone swarm yet in a renewed Russian air campaign unleashed 10 days ago after a lull since early March.

Kyiv said Moscow was also making a final push to try to capture the ruined eastern city of Bakhmut, to deliver President Vladimir Putin what would be his only prize for a costly Russian winter offensive, in time for Victory Day.

Moscow is preparing for Tuesday's Victory Day parade, the most important day in the calendar for Russia under Putin, who uses the 1945 Soviet triumph over Nazi Germany to justify his invasion of Ukraine.

In a new break with Moscow, Ukraine marked Victory Day on Monday, rather than Tuesday, in line with the practice of its Western allies. President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said he had signed a decree to officially change the date in future.

The German army's 1945 surrender took effect late at night on May 8 in Berlin, when it was already May 9 in Moscow, the date that became the Soviet holiday.

Ukraine, as part of the then-Soviet Union overrun by the Nazis, endured higher per capita casualties than Russia in World War Two and was one of the heartlands of European Jewry wiped out in the Holocaust.

"Recalling the heroism of millions of Ukrainians in that war against Nazism, we see the same heroism in the actions of our soldiers today," said Zelenskiy, who addressed the nation from a hilltop overlooking Kyiv.

"Unfortunately, evil has returned. Just as evil rushed into our towns and villages then, so it does now. As it killed our people then, so it does now," he said. "And all the old evil that modern Russia is bringing back will be defeated, just as Nazism was defeated."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...rce=reddit.com

[Dontrike]

British Intel talks a bit about Russia's growing labour shortage. (No, link, got it from Imgur.)

[Belize]

British Intel talks a bit about Russia's growing labour shortage. (No, link, got it from Imgur.)

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I'd need to find it again, but there's a recent article that claimed that based on reduction in pollution detected by satellites, Russia's industrial output decreased by a bit over 6% since a year ago.

That's despite military production being increased.

[Iphie]

I'd need to find it again, but there's a recent article that claimed that based on reduction in pollution detected by satellites, Russia's industrial output decreased by a bit over 6% since a year ago.

That's despite military production being increased.

You sure that wasn't related to COVID? I recall seeing something like that.

[Belize]

You sure that wasn't related to COVID? I recall seeing something like that.

This was post mobilization since it included increased industrial output for materials related to the war in Ukraine. Not saying Covid didn't/doesn't have an impact, but this is post-covid in the sense of vaccines have been out for a while now.

Of course, now I can't find the article, so maybe I'm going crazy.

[Iphie]

This was post mobilization since it included increased industrial output for materials related to the war in Ukraine. Not saying Covid didn't/doesn't have an impact, but this is post-covid in the sense of vaccines have been out for a while now.

Of course, now I can't find the article, so maybe I'm going crazy.

Probably not, I know how frustrating it can be when you KNOW you've seen something and you just can't find it anymore.

[LeGin v3]

@YUPPIE

Broadly speaking, where do you live?

Any chance you could extend your hatred of Russians into something constructive?

We've (in the UK) been hosting a Ukrainian mum and daughter for 8 months now. We just about have the space and have made it work but we need other people to step up. Take a share. We don't need any more shitty second hand clothes or meaningless platitudes.

[Kaleredar]

@YUPPIE

Broadly speaking, where do you live?

Any chance you could extend your hatred of Russians into something constructive?

We've (in the UK) been hosting a Ukrainian mum and daughter for 8 months now. We just about have the space and have made it work but we need other people to step up. Take a share. We don't need any more shitty second hand clothes or meaningless platitudes.

I don’t think yuppie hates Russians.

On the contrary Yuppie seems to love the romanticized idea of the strong, militant Russia.

[Corvus]

Pootie is reportedly not turning up for the may day parade in Moscow - at least not in person. He'll show up via video screen, Big Brother style.

No reason has been given. Could be health related or just his massive paranoia. Though I would not be surprised if he fell back on old tricks and staged a false flag attack on the parade and wanted no danger to himself, just so he could call for massive mobilisation in response.

[Iphie]

Pootie is reportedly not turning up for the may day parade in Moscow - at least not in person. He'll show up via video screen, Big Brother style.

No reason has been given. Could be health related or just his massive paranoia. Though I would not be surprised if he fell back on old tricks and staged a false flag attack on the parade and wanted no danger to himself, just so he could call for massive mobilisation in response.

That level of paranoia is going to kill him, ulcer, stress, heart attack. I do think it shows his weakness as he clearly cannot be sure he is safe even in Moscow. (if we take it at face value.)

[Elder Millennial]

Could be health related or just his massive paranoia. Though I would not be surprised if he fell back on old tricks and staged a false flag attack on the parade and wanted no danger to himself, just so he could call for massive mobilisation in response.

That would be so massively retardedly obvious of a false flag that I don't think even Russians would be willing to swallow it.

[Gabriel]

That would be so massively retardedly obvious of a false flag that I don't think even Russians would be willing to swallow it.

Haha. When will you people learn?

[Iphie]

Haha. When will you people learn?

Some of us keep hoping against hope that russians aren't completely braindead...but Stalin's eugenics seem to have worked rather well in that regard...

On a more serious note, I sincerely doubt many russian believe any of the false flags by the russian government it's just that they either don't care or can't do anything about it.

[Gabriel]

Some of us keep hoping against hope that russians aren't completely braindead...but Stalin's eugenics seem to have worked rather well in that regard...

On a more serious note, I sincerely doubt many russian believe any of the false flags by the russian government it's just that they either don't care or can't do anything about it.

I agree. They are not stupid.

[Iphie]

Putin seems to be out on the dais at the parade.

[alach]

God. Its like listening to a Trump speach.
Lie after lie with a large helping of victimhood.

[Iphie]

Putin's speech summary: "Boohoo! it's not our fault and we're the good guys"

Lots of cadets parading, very few vehicles, only 1 t-34 on parade, NO other tanks, not even the t-14.


Edit: and it's over, in less than an hour. What an embarrassment.

[Corvus]

No tanks, no planes and an embarrassingly low vehicle count.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...688151553?s=20

Have they run out of propaganda vehicles?

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No VDV on parade either.

[Iphie]

Prig's claiming a russian MoD unit fled the battlefield in Bakhmut leaving the Wanker flank open.

https://www.anews.com.tr/world/2023/...bat-in-bakhmut