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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomen View Post
    Yes US and Western Europa is replacsing its old F-16 with new F-35, so there will be loots of surplus F-16.
    Not sure how fast that will happen though. For Belgium it was mentioned in our news just this week that at the moment none of our F-16's are spare. Yes, they will be replaced by F-35's but those aren't here yet. Hell, Belgian pilots aren't scheduled to start training (in the US) with the first 8 Belgian F-35's until later this year and actual deployment in Belgium isn't planned until 2025. I don't know if the circumstances (Ukraine needing F-16's) might expedite that but this schedule is from november last year, so pretty recent.

    The Netherlands are a few years ahead on that schedule and already have operational F-35's if I read it correctly so maybe some of their F-16's are available?

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    Why is Zelenksy everywhere lately? France, Saudi Arabia, and now Japan (for G7) the next day after.

    Or rather, how is he getting around so quickly.

    Anyway, as some have commentated on his visits, what's notable is he always looks extremely unhappy and there's little in the way of formality from his receptors or himself; very curt and to the point

    Considering Japan's values on courtesy, it is pretty surprising there was none and they got right to the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Why is Zelenksy everywhere lately? France, Saudi Arabia, and now Japan (for G7) the next day after.

    Or rather, how is he getting around so quickly
    He is flying. Air-planes can be used for other things than bombings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    He is flying. Air-planes can be used for other things than bombings.
    Mind. Blown. In all seriousness, this shows how little Russia poses a threat. Zelensky flying around the world and they can't do shit about it.

  5. #30925
    He flew to Japan aboard a French airforce plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    He flew to Japan aboard a French airforce plane.
    I mean that's about as safe as he can get now, sitting in a NATO plane, russia isn't likely to down that.

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    And when leaving the Netherlands he used a Dutch plane.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    I don't think the planes and their allegiances have anything to do with his safety, it's just the security and secrecy that does that.

    If Zelenksy were unsecurely and publicly flying place to place, regardless of that plane's allegiances (NATO, etc), I 100% assure Russia will try to down it and then say they didn't do it. We KNOW they've done this before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Or rather, how is he getting around so quickly.
    It's called an AEROPLANE, a big metal tube that flies in the sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I don't think the planes and their allegiances have anything to do with his safety, it's just the security and secrecy that does that.

    If Zelenksy were unsecurely and publicly flying place to place, regardless of that plane's allegiances (NATO, etc), I 100% assure Russia will try to down it and then say they didn't do it. We KNOW they've done this before.
    No. Russia is not going to try to shoot down a plane in international airspace or SOMEONE ELSE'S airspace. Especially if it's a diplomatic flight that is probably flying under the flag of third country.

    I know you think Russia is "stronk", but even assuming they could somehow shoot a plane down halfway across the world (which they can't) they wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I don't think the planes and their allegiances have anything to do with his safety, it's just the security and secrecy that does that.

    If Zelenksy were unsecurely and publicly flying place to place, regardless of that plane's allegiances (NATO, etc), I 100% assure Russia will try to down it and then say they didn't do it. We KNOW they've done this before.
    Lol. Lmao even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I don't think the planes and their allegiances have anything to do with his safety, it's just the security and secrecy that does that.

    If Zelenksy were unsecurely and publicly flying place to place, regardless of that plane's allegiances (NATO, etc), I 100% assure Russia will try to down it and then say they didn't do it. We KNOW they've done this before.
    Map of eurasia, with how Zelensky went to Arabia first I have a question. At what point was he within range of any Russian missile if they were stupid enough to fire at him, also I guess he likely went over China but decided to see if he did a going around China.


  12. #30932
    China did actually allow him to fly over China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    China did actually allow him to fly over China.
    Well stand corrected but at the same time still wouldn't be anywhere near Russia.

  14. #30934
    Not just China, but Myanmar as well. You know, pooties 'allies'.

    https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/...972626432?s=20

    On top of that, China held a central Asian summit, where all the nations pledged tighter co-operation and development. Russia wasn't invited. Yeah, russia has lost central Asia to China.

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    on a side note : https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...P=share_btn_tw

    anyone killing russian/wagner troops, assassinating russian regime propagandists and attacking russian war infrastructure is a hero. (including partisan russians!)

  16. #30936
    does russian rhetoric mean anything anymore? I mean they keep saying something about how the West has crossed the line, but it seems fruitless to post context without action

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    does russian rhetoric mean anything anymore? I mean they keep saying something about how the West has crossed the line, but it seems fruitless to post context without action
    Hmmm, Russia has been at this a bit over a year. And ask yourself, in that period of time, has Russia ever done anything like what you're asking?

    Now, what did we practice saying to ourselves when Russia makes a claim, sweety pie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    does russian rhetoric mean anything anymore? I mean they keep saying something about how the West has crossed the line, but it seems fruitless to post context without action
    It never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Not just China, but Myanmar as well. You know, pooties 'allies'.

    https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/...972626432?s=20

    On top of that, China held a central Asian summit, where all the nations pledged tighter co-operation and development. Russia wasn't invited. Yeah, russia has lost central Asia to China.
    Curious question, we all know NK is leashed by China, so all of their supportive bluster is worth what in the end?

    As for Central Asia, russia is now truly surrounded and one of the blocs surrounding it is led by a ruthless capitalist who just got russia to give concessions with regards to Vladivostok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Hmmm, Russia has been at this a bit over a year. And ask yourself, in that period of time, has Russia ever done anything like what you're asking?

    Now, what did we practice saying to ourselves when Russia makes a claim, sweety pie?
    They ask "Does russian rhetoric mean anything anymore?" like once every other week. Desperate for any answer but the one that we all know to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Curious question, we all know NK is leashed by China, so all of their supportive bluster is worth what in the end?

    As for Central Asia, russia is now truly surrounded and one of the blocs surrounding it is led by a ruthless capitalist who just got russia to give concessions with regards to Vladivostok.
    Their bluster has some value. You have to keep in mind that China has no problem with Russia being aided, they just don't want to get sanctioned themselves for doing it. So NK sending weaponry is just fine, and I wouldn't be surprised if China is slipping in a few boxes of superconductors and microchips at way above premium prices under the table. (But then, I wouldn't be surprised to find US companies doing the same either. We are the world's premier arms dealer.)

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