Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Gorsameth]

Russia also skipped step #1 of establishing air control because they legit thought this was a 3 day operation and were expecting to take the country intact.
Its not for nothing that any Western air campaign in preceded by a large scale missile attack aimed at taking out air defence installations.

[Cynical Asshole]

So apparently Putin just whacked Lukashenko.

After a closed doors meeting with Putin, Lukashenko was rushed to the hospital. Nothing on media yet, just reports.

[YUPPIE]

So apparently Putin just whacked Lukashenko.

After a closed doors meeting with Putin, Lukashenko was rushed to the hospital. Nothing on media yet, just reports.

post a link at least before getting people's hopes up. Because I've been trying to find anything on this.

But anyway if Putin did kill Lukashenko, it'd be interesting because that means his servant talked back to him. I never pictured Lukashenko as someone that ever had any will of his own; only unfaltering loyalty to Putin.

[Cynical Asshole]

post a link at least before getting people's hopes up. Because I've been trying to find anything on this.

But anyway if Putin did kill Lukashenko, it'd be interesting because that means his servant talked back to him. I never pictured Lukashenko as someone that ever had any will of his own; only unfaltering loyalty to Putin.

Just heard on news, but when I rushed to hear more, they already changed the subject. Only other thing I could find is a Twitter post from some guy, maybe he knows more. https://twitter.com/PierreCrom/statu...57961501868033

[Makabreska]

Just heard on news, but when I rushed to hear more, they already changed the subject. Only other thing I could find is a Twitter post from some guy, maybe he knows more. https://twitter.com/PierreCrom/statu...57961501868033

Still nothing on the news, seems like a bullcrap.

[gondrin]

Regardless of posturing, when will others finally sanction Russia for nuclear scaremongering? That shit should never be considered "posturing" like it's harmless.

But Japan at least, with its fresh sanctions on Russia, have criticized them for this act.

Japan on Friday approved additional sanctions against Russia over its war on Ukraine, including freezing the assets of dozens of individuals and groups and banning exports to Russian military-related organizations.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Hirokazu Matsuno told reporters the Cabinet approval shows Japan is in step with the rest of the Group of Seven countries that agreed during their summit in Hiroshima last week to maintain and strengthen sanctions against Russia.

He said Japan is committed to working with other G7 countries and the broader international community “to improve the situation” for Ukraine.

Matsuno also sharply criticized the signing of a deal between Russia and Belarus on Thursday formalizing the deployment of Moscow’s tactical nuclear weapons in its ally’s territory as a move that “further escalate tensions.”

“As the world’s only country to have suffered nuclear attacks, Japan finds Russia’s threats of nuclear weapons and their use absolutely impermissible,” Matsuno said. “Japan’s government demands Russia and Belarus stop actions that further escalate tensions as we continue to watch the development with strong concern.”

When it comes to nuclear weapons, it is a fools errand to use them in any way other than to saber rattle. North Korea does it constantly to demand food and other concessions and yet, they haven't launched anything nor will they. They know if they launch any nukes, their country would, for all intents and purposes, be wiped off of the map. Same with Russia. If they launched any nukes, that would the end of Russia.

I'm not saying it cannot happen. It just won't. Russia would have far too much to lose then to gain from using them. The only people that would actually use a nuke are the insane religious hardliners in parts of the world where they will behead people for petty crimes. But that is a topic that I will not get into so do not expect me to.

[Calfredd]

post a link at least before getting people's hopes up.

Because you can't wank to it until you know if it's true? Didn't stop you before when you kept screaming "nukes!"

[YUPPIE]

Because you can't wank to it until you know if it's true? Didn't stop you before when you kept screaming "nukes!"

if Lukashenko was killed by Putin, I think it adds up to the recent move of nukes to Belarus.

Not that I'm saying they plan to use them, but Putin is probably preparing to annex Belarus - hence the move signifying it as Russia now - and Lukashenko said "no".

[Cynical Asshole]

Found another source https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/statu...83898725482500

Multiple sources claim this. There must be something here.

[YUPPIE]

fuckk it might be true. If any of you were wondering how Russian forces vs Belarusian forces would look like in a hostile takeover, it may be happening

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Found another source https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/statu...83898725482500

Multiple sources claim this. There must be something here.

damn, keep this thread informed.

[Gorsameth]

Come on... Lukashenko was ill before. The notion that Putin, who himself is supposedly very ill, personally whacked him in nonsense.
He may well be dead/dying/critical/whatever but lets not sensationalize things more then necessary.

And no, Putin is not annexing Belarus. The Belarusian army flat out refused orders to invade Ukraine previously so they are unlikely to go along with it and Russia is in absolutely no position to fight Belarus.

[Makabreska]

Found another source https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/statu...83898725482500

Multiple sources claim this. There must be something here.

Still nothing on the news.

[Twdft]

it's bad in the sense we're about to see a whole lot of death and destruction in one go.

If only there was a way to avoid this unnecessary death and destruction...

Hint for slow thinkers: ruSSia could simply get the fuck out of Ukraine.

[Cynical Asshole]

Still nothing on the news.

Yeah. News outlets usually wait until there is a confirmation of anything, gotta verify the information. Unless of course it involves misunderstandings about city bikes, then they jump straight to conclusions and then retract after it turns their spin on the story was biased bullshit.

[Kallisto]

I don't think people realise that it is actually in Putin's interest for Luka to be alive. Most of Belarus wants nothing to do with Putin, the military totally wants nothing to do with the war otherwise Belarus would be already in. Luka is the guy that keeps Belarus in his sphere, keeps the Ukrainians having to move some of their forces on their northern border just incase, instead of to the south and has enough of the military supporting him to stop an internal coup.

Lukashenko has been ill for a while, during May 9th Putin was said to be in a panic since Lukashenko was having health issues.

[Iphie]

I don't think people realise that it is actually in Putin's interest for Luka to be alive. Most of Belarus wants nothing to do with Putin, the military totally wants nothing to do with the war otherwise Belarus would be already in. Luka is the guy that keeps Belarus in his sphere, keeps the Ukrainians having to move some of their forces on their northern border just incase, instead of to the south and has enough of the military supporting him to stop an internal coup.

Lukashenko has been ill for a while, during May 9th Putin was said to be in a panic since Lukashenko was having health issues.

Not to mention: if Luka actually would die in Moscow as a result of foul play (or maybe even in general), putin's diplomacy will take a big hit, I mean who in their right mind would go visit someone who killed a head of state who is visiting.

[Kallisto]

Not to mention: if Luka actually would die in Moscow as a result of foul play (or maybe even in general), putin's diplomacy will take a big hit, I mean who in their right mind would go visit someone who killed a head of state who is visiting.

This too, Putin is not trying to portray this as Russia vs the world. It's being portrayed as Russia vs the West and trying to get the global south, many countries with have real reasons to hate western nations due to colonial crimes in Africa/Asia and US backed coups/dictatorships in other places. He's not going to win their views if his closest ally is killed on his watch where there's no real plausible deniability.

[D Luniz]

Oh I'm sure Russia still has plenty of basic hardware like tanks and rifles, not to mention planes.

50 year old, poorly (if not secretly stripped and parts sold off under the table) equipment used by poorly trained, unmotivated troops. You'd have more use giving them all dirt bikes and rushing them in mass. At least they might waste ammo that would have killed someone able to fight.

[YUPPIE]

Fully published article on Lukashenko. We don't know if he's dead, though.

Valery Tsepkalo, Belarusian opposition leader, said that after a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the self-proclaimed President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko was taken to the Central Clinical Hospital of Moscow in critical condition.

Quote: "According to the information we have, which needs additional confirmation, Lukashenko, after meeting with Putin behind closed doors, was urgently taken to the Central Clinical Hospital of Moscow, where he is now located. The best specialists were sent to return him from a condition assessed by doctors as critical. [His - ed.] blood was purified, Lukashenko's condition was proclaimed not transportable.

The organised measures to save the Belarusian dictator were intended to ward off speculation about the possible participation of the Kremlin in his poisoning. It does not matter whether he returns to working condition or not, doctors warn of a possible recurrence of relapses. "

Details: Later, Tsepkalo added that there is an attempt to explain Lukashenko's stay at the Administrative Directorate of the President of the Russian Federation with a medical examination.

"The appearance of such a version is quite natural, as an attempt to hide the real condition of the patient, which is still critical. Previous cases of faltering health were also attempted to be silenced. And in this case, in order not to arouse suspicion, his plane was even sent to Minsk," the opposition leader says.

Earlier: On 24 May, Lukashenko participated in the Eurasian Economic Forum in Moscow. There, in particular, he said that Russian nuclear weapons had already begun to be transported to Belarus within the framework of bilateral agreements.

[Corvus]

Pootie needs luka alive at all costs. If luka dies it's very likely he loses Belarus and he has nothing available to deal with that.

So even if he does die, expect them to carry on as if he was alive somehow in russian care to string it out as long as possible.

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Besides the blame game already going on, you can tell the russians are worried as both they and China have come out with a 'peace' plan that says let russia keep what they have stolen, pretty please.

Actually, russia's plan goes a little further, saying no EU, no NATO and russian as the state language.

Expect the paid stooges to start parroting it as well.

In no surprise everyone else said not a chance.