Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Edge-]

it's like the other posters have said, sitting back and just "condemning" Russia isn't doing shit either.

And they know it too, so that's why they did something as frankly audacious and reckless as this.

Wait, is Russia's economy doing good now or something? Is the country doing well?

[Gorsameth]

it's like the other posters have said, sitting back and just "condemning" Russia isn't doing shit either.

And they know it too, so that's why they did something as frankly audacious and reckless as this.

Not doing shit?
I must have imagined Russia's army dying in Ukraine, their zombie economy, their international image shattered and China gobbling up their 'allies' in Central Asia.

Sure I wish we did more but the notion that Russia is not suffering consequences is plain ludicrous.

[YUPPIE]

Every time it's something about Russia's economy suffering as a result. But the reality is Russia's economy is still, in fact, alive and resilient and not the North Korea everyone wants to believe it is. And that if people want to see these economical and social consequences like you all imply, that will be decades later assuming. But it isn't now where it may matter; what I mean by this is, like Japan, we may forgive and forget in decades time.

[LeGin v3]

Because your consequence idea is basically 8 billion people on this planet turning into a few million. That's not a viable solution.

It's bizarre isn't it. How casual he is with this. Apocalyptic Fascination.

But...

Pretty sure Russia is facing real consequences, both at home and in Ukraine...

I guess the question is: exactly who in Russia is facing real consequences. Relatives of those killed or injured, yep. Economic pinch, yep. But Putin / his immediate circle? Putin's a thug and a criminal. What's the cunt's endgame? Take his guesstimated $200bn wealth with him? I share others' pessimism, if not their relish of apocalyptic scenarios.

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Please do something positive to help. If you live in the UK, please consider Homes For Ukraine. Ignore the government's half-arsed shit and head straight to charities / Local Councils / reputable Facebook groups etc. There are refugees who, for whatever reason, are feeling obliged to return to Ukraine for lack of an onwards path when this is clearly the wrong choice.

[Gorsameth]

It's bizarre isn't it. How casual he is with this. Apocalyptic Fascination.

But...



I guess the question is: exactly who in Russia is facing real consequences. Relatives of those killed or injured, yep. Economic pinch, yep. But Putin / his immediate circle? Putin's a thug and a criminal. What's the cunt's endgame? Take his guesstimated $200bn wealth with him? I share others' pessimism, if not their relish of apocalyptic scenarios.

Your amazing that a dictator, ruling a government that is specifically designed to insulate him from consequences is able to largely ignore consequences at the cost of his own people?

Outside of marching in and grabbing him ourselves what is there that the West could do against Putin personally that they are not doing?

[Kokolums]

Wait, is Russia's economy doing good now or something? Is the country doing well?

Russia responded to sanctions by creating its own multinational economy between Russia, China, Iran, and now India. India is devouring Russian oil which really helps the Russian economy. Its really amazing considering India and China have been rivals for some time. Basically the US sanctions have caused China and India to ally with each other thru Russia. At this point, Russias economy is booming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyt9GVuAqs

[LeGin v3]

Your amazing that a dictator, ruling a government that is specifically designed to insulate him from consequences is able to largely ignore consequences at the cost of his own people?

Outside of marching in and grabbing him ourselves what is there that the West could do against Putin personally that they are not doing?

I didn't say there was anything else the West could do.

My question was: what real consequences (your words) it is that you think Putin, himself personally, is facing at the moment?

I do not want to get into an argument about this.

Again, please think about what you, personally, can do to help instead of typing angrily on some obscure gaming forum.

[Belize]

At this point, Russias economy is booming.

Which is why Russia itself reported declining industrial output, with the overall economy shrinking 1.9% in the 1st quarter
It's booming so much that Russian industries are calling on their labor department to enforce a 6 day workweek to help cope with the sanctions

[Edge-]

Russia responded to sanctions by creating its own multinational economy between Russia, China, Iran, and now India. India is devouring Russian oil which really helps the Russian economy. Its really amazing considering India and China have been rivals for some time. Basically the US sanctions have caused China and India to ally with each other thru Russia. At this point, Russias economy is booming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyt9GVuAqs

Is it really? Is that why they're not letting any western media into their "Russian Davos"? Or why their central bankers are warning of brain drains as Russians with skills flee the country?

https://www.reuters.com/markets/euro...ce-2023-05-17/

Is reporting a 2% YoY shrinkage in their economy for the first quarter "booming" under any definition?

[Wilian]

Russia responded to sanctions by creating its own multinational economy between Russia, China, Iran, and now India. India is devouring Russian oil which really helps the Russian economy. Its really amazing considering India and China have been rivals for some time. Basically the US sanctions have caused China and India to ally with each other thru Russia. At this point, Russias economy is booming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyt9GVuAqs

Russia's economy is booming so well they hit the sort of budget deficit in two months to the year they had planned for whole year after which they promptly classified nearly every economic data the government usually had put out.

[Sunseeker]

Man, I don't want to quote the guy to give him any more airtime, but it is exremely amusing to see the perpetuation of this "Holy Trinity" alliance between Russia, China and India. I mean, I literally wrote papers on why its complete garbage. Only in Russia's head could there possibly be a true alliance between these three nations, and of course in Russia's head it's all thanks to Russia! Just like how in China's head it's all thanks to China! Just like how in India's head they're both fucking authoritarian overlords who don't want fuckall to do with anyone else unless that "anyone else" is under their thumb.

Which is why any talk of an alliance between these nations is complete absurdity.

[AntiFascistVoter]

Russia responded to sanctions by creating its own multinational economy between Russia, China, Iran, and now India. India is devouring Russian oil which really helps the Russian economy. Its really amazing considering India and China have been rivals for some time. Basically the US sanctions have caused China and India to ally with each other thru Russia. At this point, Russias economy is booming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyt9GVuAqs

But the Russian Civil War is much closer to happening than some BRICs fantasy.

You've been Thirsty for Civil War for years. Why so shy now?



*note to self, start selling trucker hats with Thirsty for Civil War on etsy
*???
*Profit

[Logwyn]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=41a53f5d1641

Russians about to be pushed back to the motherland?

[D Luniz]

Every time it's something about Russia's economy suffering as a result. But the reality is Russia's economy is still, in fact, alive and resilient and not the North Korea everyone wants to believe it is. And that if people want to see these economical and social consequences like you all imply, that will be decades later assuming. But it isn't now where it may matter; what I mean by this is, like Japan, we may forgive and forget in decades time.

So resilient they'll roll out new tanks annnnnnnyyday now. Cause they have all the parts to do it annnnnnnnnnnnnnyday now in day 400sometgings of the "Three-day operation"

[YUPPIE]

I saw the aftermath of the flooding from today and it was some of the most horrifying shit ever in ecological destruction.

It makes me go insane (like I kicked my desk across the room in a rage) that even though this is such a step-up in war crimes, one that affects more than just its vicinity, we got nothing but the politicians "slam" Russia headlines. NATO hasn't even made a statement.

It's so horrible what being a nuclear power will let you get away with (that being everything). Russia just can't seem to be stopped or slowed down.

[Benggaul]

Between the alcoholism, apparent uncontrollable rage and obvious lust for conspiracy theories/Russian propaganda I'd say it's about time someone's parents or guardians took away their internet access for a while.

[YUPPIE]

It's the death and suffering of the animals that I saw that sent me into this rage.

According to officials, all animals except the birds perished in zoos. I mean, that's what matters most IMO but mines were also seen hazardously washing ashore in addition to building collapses and ongoing human crisis.

[DarkTZeratul]

I saw the aftermath of the flooding from today and it was some of the most horrifying shit ever in ecological destruction.

Dude, everything is "the most horrifying shit ever" to you. Learn to properly categorize things.

[YUPPIE]

António Guterres, the UN Secretary-General, said that the collapse was "another devastating consequence of the Russian invasion of Ukraine", and stated that: "Attacks against civilians and critical civilian infrastructure must stop." NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg called the event "outrageous" and said it showed "the brutality of Russia's war in Ukraine". European Council President Charles Michel called the blowing up of a hydroelectric power plant a war crime on the part of Russia. The Council of Europe stated: "We condemn in the strongest terms the destruction of the Nova Kakhovka dam in the Kherson region of Ukraine".

For what it's worth (nothing), these were some of the statements made on the matter.

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Dude, everything is "the most horrifying shit ever" to you. Learn to properly categorize things.

I mean, you yourself have to admit that Russia keeps one-upping itself. So what may seem, by all accounts, beyond horrific...might not be the worst due to something else the next time around.

[Jastall]

Man, I don't want to quote the guy to give him any more airtime, but it is exremely amusing to see the perpetuation of this "Holy Trinity" alliance between Russia, China and India. I mean, I literally wrote papers on why its complete garbage. Only in Russia's head could there possibly be a true alliance between these three nations, and of course in Russia's head it's all thanks to Russia! Just like how in China's head it's all thanks to China! Just like how in India's head they're both fucking authoritarian overlords who don't want fuckall to do with anyone else unless that "anyone else" is under their thumb.

Which is why any talk of an alliance between these nations is complete absurdity.

Especially considering India. An alliance? Lol, India considers Russia a cheap gas station and arms workshop, and the latter maybe not for that long. In terms of economical and political ties it's closer to the West and of course is a rival of China in every way that matters so any idea of a three-way "alliance" is wishful nonsense. The only true relationship there is China gradually making Russia part of its own sphere of influence as it gobbles up its satellites in Central Asia in the process.

Then again, Kokolums is up there with the OP in terms of being a veritable fountain of risibly bad takes.