Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

I feel like Russia's goal is not conquest anymore, but just destroying everything they can.

You figured that out all by yourself? Gold Star!

Nah, I'm sure they'd still like to conquer but seeing as they are failing they'll settle for destruction.

[YUPPIE]

I would be even more afraid if a genocidal army changed goalposts from horrifically evil but pragmatic conquest of territories to all-out Locust Horde-like annihilation of everything. Which is what the Russians are evidently doing realizing that gaining ground is not working out like with Bahmkut, a short-lived victory.

[Gabriel]

They're not being called orcs because they're being racially profiled based on their appearance.

They're being called orcs because they're acting like dumb, savage barbarians.

Furthermore, I would call the systemic racism faced by the Japanese in the US, immigrants and US citizens alike, during World War 2 to far exceed any such racism Russians are facing currently, especially considering no "Russian internment camps" have been raised up in the deserts of the southwestern US. And I'd wager that the vast majority of harassment any Russians abroad are currently facing stems from a professed support for Putin and the current state of Russian leadership, rather than simply because they are Russian.

Apples and oranges.

Calling someone a vatnik is the equivalent of calling someone a MAGAtard or libtard.

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I would be even more afraid if a genocidal army changed goalposts from horrifically evil but pragmatic conquest of territories to all-out Locust Horde-like annihilation of everything. Which is what the Russians are evidently doing realizing that gaining ground is not working out like with Bahmkut, a short-lived victory.

Nothing besides the direction of Russian troop movement has changed.

[Azadina]

Calling someone a vatnik is the equivalent of calling someone a MAGAtard or libtard.

Which is why it's woefully inadequate.

Orc = insulting to orcs
Vatnik = inadequate
Zigger = meh
Ryssä = now we're talking.

[Gabriel]

Which is why it's woefully inadequate.

Orc = insulting to orcs
Vatnik = inadequate
Zigger = meh
Ryssä = now we're talking.

I'm a reformed man and I don't want to get banned.

[YUPPIE]

NATO may send troops to Ukraine if dissatisfied with US security guarantees.

A group of NATO countries may be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine if member states including the US do not provide tangible security guarantees to Kyiv at the alliance’s summit in Vilnius, the former NATO secretary general Anders Rasmussen has said.

Rasmussen, who has been acting as official adviser to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, on Ukraine’s place in a future European security architecture, has been touring Europe and Washington to gauge the shifting mood before the critical summit starts on 11 July.

He also warned that even if a group of states did provide Ukraine with security guarantees, others would not allow the issue of Ukraine’s future NATO membership to be kept off the agenda at Vilnius.

He made his remarks as the current Nato chief, Jens Stoltenberg, said the issue of security guarantees would be on the agenda at Vilnius, but added that Nato – under article 5 of the Washington treaty – only provided full-fledged security guarantees to full members.

The US ambassador to Nato, Julianne Smith, said: “We are looking at an array of options to signal that Ukraine is advancing in its relationship with NATO.”

[Ulmita]

NATO may send troops to Ukraine if dissatisfied with US security guarantees.

A group of NATO countries may be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine if member states including the US do not provide tangible security guarantees to Kyiv at the alliance’s summit in Vilnius, the former NATO secretary general Anders Rasmussen has said.

Rasmussen, who has been acting as official adviser to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, on Ukraine’s place in a future European security architecture, has been touring Europe and Washington to gauge the shifting mood before the critical summit starts on 11 July.

He also warned that even if a group of states did provide Ukraine with security guarantees, others would not allow the issue of Ukraine’s future NATO membership to be kept off the agenda at Vilnius.

He made his remarks as the current Nato chief, Jens Stoltenberg, said the issue of security guarantees would be on the agenda at Vilnius, but added that Nato – under article 5 of the Washington treaty – only provided full-fledged security guarantees to full members.

The US ambassador to Nato, Julianne Smith, said: “We are looking at an array of options to signal that Ukraine is advancing in its relationship with NATO.”

That's WW3 right there. My guess is that the US will try to cool the hot heads and avoid such catastrophe.

[Cynical Asshole]

NATO may send troops to Ukraine if dissatisfied with US security guarantees.

A group of NATO countries may be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine if member states including the US do not provide tangible security guarantees to Kyiv at the alliance’s summit in Vilnius, the former NATO secretary general Anders Rasmussen has said.

Rasmussen, who has been acting as official adviser to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, on Ukraine’s place in a future European security architecture, has been touring Europe and Washington to gauge the shifting mood before the critical summit starts on 11 July.

He also warned that even if a group of states did provide Ukraine with security guarantees, others would not allow the issue of Ukraine’s future NATO membership to be kept off the agenda at Vilnius.

He made his remarks as the current Nato chief, Jens Stoltenberg, said the issue of security guarantees would be on the agenda at Vilnius, but added that Nato – under article 5 of the Washington treaty – only provided full-fledged security guarantees to full members.

The US ambassador to Nato, Julianne Smith, said: “We are looking at an array of options to signal that Ukraine is advancing in its relationship with NATO.”

That's not gonna happen until Putin does something really stupid, like using nukes.

[Azadina]

That's WW3 right there. My guess is that the US will try to cool the hot heads and avoid such catastrophe.

If RuZZia wants to cease to exist as terrorist nation, rather than just getting the hell out of Ukraine, then sure. My guess is that they don't want to cease to exist. That they'll choose keeping the wasteland they have.

[YUPPIE]

That's not gonna happen until

I want it to happen so this is over already. All of it. It's pretty clear the Kakhovka was the tipping point for NATO's rage. They don't want something of this disaster in particular happening again, and that's understandable.

[Mekh]

That's not gonna happen until Putin does something really stupid, like using nukes.

I want it to happen.

And this is why nobody takes you seriously.

[Gabriel]

That's WW3 right there. My guess is that the US will try to cool the hot heads and avoid such catastrophe.

Kind like Russia was going to NOOOOOOK the moment someone attacker Russia proper? Woops.

[YUPPIE]

It's either NATO keeps doing nothing and innocents and animals keep dying horrible deaths while Russia mocks its supposed powerlessness

...or NATO intervenes, annihilates the Russian invaders, then challenges Putin's pathetic bluff

I prefer the second, sorry.

[Nymrohd]

Kind like Russia was going to NOOOOOOK the moment someone attacker Russia proper? Woops.

I mean blowing up the dam and drowning Kyiv will cost as many lives as a nuclear attack would. They have already leveled several towns and small cities.

[Cynical Asshole]

I want it to happen so this is over already. All of it. It's pretty clear the Kakhovka was the tipping point for NATO's rage. They don't want something of this disaster in particular happening again, and that's understandable.

The thing about nuclear war is that you shouldn't weep for those who died, you should weep for those who survived.

[Nymrohd]

The thing about nuclear war is that you shouldn't weep for those who died, you should weep for those who survived.

I'd mostly weep for those who die, just not immediately

[Cynical Asshole]

I'd mostly weep for those who die, just not immediately

I would prefer being vaporized than having to survive through the following holocaust.

[Nymrohd]

I would prefer being vaporized than having to survive through the following holocaust.

Yeah me too. I am mostly refering to the people who die to the fallout from radiation poisoning, that seems like a horrible and slow death.

[Kallisto]

It's either NATO keeps doing nothing and innocents and animals keep dying horrible deaths while Russia mocks its supposed powerlessness

...or NATO intervenes, annihilates the Russian invaders, then challenges Putin's pathetic bluff

I prefer the second, sorry.

Yes because we know you want WW3, even before this war started you were crying about a lack of world war for you to die and take all of us with you in.

[Gabriel]

I would prefer being vaporized than having to survive through the following holocaust.

Yeah me too. I am mostly refering to the people who die to the fallout from radiation poisoning, that seems like a horrible and slow death.

Don't do this to me. Aftermath of nuclear war discussion is my trigger brah.