Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Corvus]

They were mobility kills, which can be repaired. One Leopard already has been by reports.

More importantly, as these were western vehicles, the crews survived. Vehicles can be replaced. Trained crews can't.

And russian propagandists are playing up this one small encounter as they didn't have much more to show. They are being pushed back on the other axis of advances.

[Gabriel]

They were mobility kills, which can be repaired. One Leopard already has been by reports.

More importantly, as these were western vehicles, the crews survived. Vehicles can be replaced. Trained crews can't.

And russian propagandists are playing up this one small encounter as they didn't have much more to show. They are being pushed back on the other axis of advances.

Witchcraft.

[zealo]

Dead? NATO is supposed to be a metaphorical space armada vs goblins armed with sticks here.

The real world is not the video game you imagine it as.

[Gabriel]

Tbf an actual fullscale combined arms NATO operation against Russia would look like an alien invasion from the Russian POV, but even at 1000:1 casualty ratio there would be so much bitching and moaning from various pussy countries that we won't see it unless Russia goes full retard.

[alach]

Looks like Ukraine has marked their first success of the operation, liberating the village of Blahodatne.

Not sure what exactly it means however, until we see how much damage they have done to the enemy, to make sure they wont just turn around and come back.

[Iphie]

Looks like Ukraine has marked their first success of the operation, liberating the village of Blahodatne.

Not sure what exactly it means however, until we see how much damage they have done to the enemy, to make sure they wont just turn around and come back.

How many Blahodatnes are there, as this only throws up a city in Kherson that got liberated months ago...

[Corvus]

In the kharkiv and kherson offensives, they only announced liberations like this a couple of days after it was secured.

[alach]

How many Blahodatnes are there, as this only throws up a city in Kherson that got liberated months ago...

Thats strange.
Heres the source.

There sure is alot of fake information floating around out there, but I guess thats what Russia does best, lie and cheat and steal eh?
Those images of the animals from the flooded dam are just heartbreaking.

[YUPPIE]

Those images of the animals from the flooded dam are just heartbreaking.

it's good to know someone else acknowledges this when I mentioned it a few days ago. More than the human disaster, the sight of animal cruelty makes me fly into a borderline homicidal rage.

I've seen so many dogs, namely, tortured, personally killed, or incidentally killed in this Ukrainian war at the hands of the Russians. And every time I scream in impotent fury at that alone.

This is why I mainly wish the war ends already.

[Poopymonster]

it's good to know someone else acknowledges this when I mentioned it a few days ago. More than the human disaster, the sight of animal cruelty makes me fly into a borderline homicidal rage.

I've seen so many dogs, namely, tortured, personally killed, or incidentally killed in this Ukrainian war at the hands of the Russians. And every time I scream in impotent fury at that alone.

This is why I mainly wish the war ends already.

Stop watching the news. Get off the internet. Get help for your self assessed drinking problem. Therapy for your rage issues.
Otherwise all you're doing is pissing and moaning about how things make you feel without doing anything to change how you react to it.
That's unhealthy.
You're showing you are a danger to yourself, possibly others.
Log. Out.
Go. Touch. Grass.

[YUPPIE]

Otherwise all you're doing is pissing and moaning about how things make you feel without doing anything to change how you react to it.

the problem with this is I recognize my faults and that's why I'm not sure of enlisting for the Ukrainian war cause as a volunteer. I'm so vindictive, hateful and bloodthirsty deep down I feel like that would not ever be tolerated even amongst the Ukrainians that would have a good reason for hating the Russians and having some measure of anger channeled into motivation.

[Corvus]

The russian MOD has ordered all 'volunteer formations' (ie Wagner) to sign contracts directly with the MOD, in an effort to take it over. The Prig has said it isn't going to happen.

[Cynical Asshole]

The russian MOD has ordered all 'volunteer formations' (ie Wagner) to sign contracts directly with the MOD, in an effort to take it over. The Prig has said it isn't going to happen.

It would be so funny if Wagner joins up with the Russian rebels and challenges Putin.

It would also be Prig's chance to avoid the coming war crime charges after the war, if he could negotiate turning against Putin and in return the international court goes lenient on him.

[YUPPIE]

The Prig has said it isn't going to happen.

How hasn't Putin detained and given this guy the most gruesome death imaginable, by now? Or even poisoned him? He's constantly been criticizing Putin for weeks at this point. And if what you said is true, that's straight up treason by now. Putin has tortured and killed people for far, far less.

[Kallisto]

How hasn't Putin detained and given this guy the most gruesome death imaginable, by now? Or even poisoned him? He's constantly been criticizing Putin for weeks at this point. And if what you said is true, that's straight up treason by now. Putin has tortured and killed people for far, far less.

Because he focuses his contempt on those below Putin, which is what autocrats and dictators want. Those below you are infighting so they don't team up against you. HOW MANY TIMES MUST YOU BE TOLD THIS?

[Cynical Asshole]

How hasn't Putin detained and given this guy the most gruesome death imaginable, by now? Or even poisoned him? He's constantly been criticizing Putin for weeks at this point. And if what you said is true, that's straight up treason by now. Putin has tortured and killed people for far, far less.

Because he controls a rather large army as well as being highly connected?

Putin is not Stalin. Only Stalin could literally order the death of anybody at all. Putin is restricted to a degree by his own oligarchs and politicians. He can't just piss off these people, or he will be the one falling from a window.

[zealo]

How hasn't Putin detained and given this guy the most gruesome death imaginable, by now? Or even poisoned him? He's constantly been criticizing Putin for weeks at this point. And if what you said is true, that's straight up treason by now. Putin has tortured and killed people for far, far less.

No, he has not.

Prigozhin has been railing against Shoigu/Gerasimov and the Russian MoD, not Putin directly.

[Voidism]

It seems Russian shovels took out the leopard 2, bradleys etc


The Russians Just Destroyed Their First Ukrainian Leopard 2 Tank

David Axe Forbes Staff
Jun 8, 2023,06:51pm EDT

The Russians have bagged their first Leopard.

A Russian artillery strike on a Ukrainian vehicle column during a daytime assault on or around the town of Novopokrovka—35 miles southeast of Zaporizhzhia city in southern Ukraine—apparently knocked out at least one Leopard 2 tank on Wednesday.

A Russian drone orbited overheard as the shells rained down, its crew presumably helping to direct the strike and assess the resulting damage. The Russians posted the drone’s video on social media, finally achieving what Russian propagandists earlier had tried and failed to do: posit the destruction of a Ukrainian Leopard 2.

The Leopard 2 and other armored vehicles were traveling in an uncomfortably tight column along an unpaved road outside Novopokrovka or nearby Mala Tokmachka—both occupied by Russian troops—when the artillery struck.

It’s unclear which brigade the Ukrainian forces belonged to. The only front-line brigades analysts have confirmed as present along the Novopokrovka sector—the 65th Mechanized Brigade and the 46th Air Mobile Brigade—are not confirmed as operators of Ukraine’s German-made Leopard 2s.

There are just three Ukrainian brigades we can say with some confidence possess Leopard 2s: the newly-formed 33rd Mechanized Brigade and the veteran 1st and 4th Tank Brigades.

The 4th Tank Brigade recently was spotted in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region, nearly a hundred miles from the Zaporizhzhia front. The 33rd Mechanized Brigade last was observed training around Lviv in western Ukraine. The 1st Tank Brigade meanwhile was a few miles to the east of Novopokrovka.

The 4th Tank Brigade is busy. That implies the vehicle column the Russians bombarded on Wednesday was from the 1st Tank Brigade or 33rd Mechanized Brigade. It’s possible one or both brigades recently joined Ukraine’s four-day-old counteroffensive.

We don’t know the outcome of the Ukrainian assault on Novopokrovka or Mala Tokmachka. The 1st Tank Brigade and 33rd Mechanized Brigade between them have dozens of Leopard 2s plus scores of other armored vehicles. Knocking out one Leopard 2—or even several Leopard 2s—isn’t decisive.

Many of Ukraine’s heaviest brigades have yet to join the attack. The 47th Assault Brigade with its American-made M-2 infantry fighting vehicles reportedly is fighting along the southern front. But the 82nd Air Assault Brigade with its ex-British Challenger 2 tanks and ex-American Stryker IFVs has yet to appear.

Even if the Russians destroy all 85 of the Leopard 2s Ukraine’s allies currently have pledged to the war effort, there are more tanks on the way—including 31 M-1s from the United States and more than 130 Leopard 1s from a Danish-Dutch-German consortium.

Expect more Ukrainian equipment losses—in tanks, fighting vehicles and artillery—as the counteroffensive develops. Expect the human toll to mount, as well. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky earlier this month predicted “a large number of [Ukrainian] soldiers will die” as Kyiv’s forces fight to liberate their country from years of Russian occupation.

Jesus, the russians really are starved for success if this makes their willies point up to this level.

[ringpriest]

They were mobility kills, which can be repaired. One Leopard already has been by reports.

More importantly, as these were western vehicles, the crews survived. Vehicles can be replaced. Trained crews can't.

And russian propagandists are playing up this one small encounter as they didn't have much more to show. They are being pushed back on the other axis of advances.

I was wondering if anyone was going to point this out. No turrets flying from ammo cook-offs, no corpses. Mission-killed vehicles, yes, which is not what anyone wants, but live crews, which is highly desirable from both a morale and logistical perspective.

[YUPPIE]

Sanctions are ineffective, says Yurii Ihnat, spokesman for Ukraine’s Air Force, in an interview with Ukrainska Pravda.
Western sanctions against Russia have not been fully effective, and are continuing to enable Russia to manufacture new missiles, which it uses in attacks on Ukraine.

EDIT: Fucking broken link. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406331/

"It’s clear that Russia has found ways to circumvent sanctions by relying on countries that continue to cooperate with it, and is receiving technical components that it can’t manufacture itself: boards, microchips, semiconductors. All these elements make a missile work.

So I hope that sanctions will keep putting pressure on Russia. If sanctions are implemented systematically, and if they are enforced, then we will be able to put Russia in its place."