Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Xyonai]

You DO know what propaganda is.....right?

From the year and a half this thread has been active and the repeated, incredibly blunt attempts to educate them on this? I'd say no.

[Lenonis]

From the year and a half this thread has been active and the repeated, incredibly blunt attempts to educate them on this? I'd say no.

I can't help but wonder if folks like that don't recognize that it's propaganda or they just don't care. Same thing with a lot of current conservatives - I'm not sure they don't realize they are being lied to - I think they just don't care because they like what they are hearing.

[Kallisto]

I can't help but wonder if folks like that don't recognize that it's propaganda or they just don't care. Same thing with a lot of current conservatives - I'm not sure they don't realize they are being lied to - I think they just don't care because they like what they are hearing.

Scary thing is that propaganda is just so easy to do and people from all backgrounds are so susceptible to it. Experiments have been done that basically point out that you can get a group of people falling for it in just days if you can get a core amount of people to say it often enough. It's actually very scary

[enigma77]

Scary thing is that propaganda is just so easy to do and people from all backgrounds are so susceptible to it. Experiments have been done that basically point out that you can get a group of people falling for it in just days if you can get a core amount of people to say it often enough. It's actually very scary

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”—Adolf Hitler

[Corvus]

Pootie really is at Hitler in his bunker levels of delusion and disconnect from reality in his talk. Claims that Ukraine has been totally unsuccessful in its counter-attack and suffered catastrophic losses, they could go take Kyiv if they wanted etc.

He did admit russia lost 54 tanks in the counter-offensive while claiming Ukraine lost 160 (without any evidence. )

Oddly that is more russian tanks than even Ukraine has claimed to have taken out and given the way russia lies, it may even be more than that.

[Xyonai]

Pootie really is at Hitler in his bunker levels of delusion and disconnect from reality in his talk. Claims that Ukraine has been totally unsuccessful in its counter-attack and suffered catastrophic losses, they could go take Kyiv if they wanted etc.

He did admit russia lost 54 tanks in the counter-offensive while claiming Ukraine lost 160 (without any evidence. )

Oddly that is more russian tanks than even Ukraine has claimed to have taken out and given the way russia lies, it may even be more than that.

I can believe Ukraine's lost a hefty amount of armor in the counter offensive, it'd be miraculous if they lost any less than what Russia did given what we've discussed before (IE: The topic of casualties for attackers vs defenders), though it's telling that the only images we've gotten from the Vatniks about Ukraine armor losses are the same three pics of stalled Leos.

[Flarelaine]

I can believe Ukraine's lost a hefty amount of armor in the counter offensive, it'd be miraculous if they lost any less than what Russia did given what we've discussed before (IE: The topic of casualties for attackers vs defenders), though it's telling that the only images we've gotten from the Vatniks about Ukraine armor losses are the same three pics of stalled Leos.

Also as someone pointed out at least some of the disabled Bradleys and Leos look repairable. We see Russian tanks with the turret blown off, for the most part.

[Corvus]

Russian media is reporting the deputy prime minister of chechnia has been wounded in Ukraine. Probably a bit much to ask that Wagner did it.

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Got to hope this one is true - near Kreminna, a russian officer gathered up his men into a tight pack to give them a rallying speech only for them to be hit by himars according to a number of russian milblogggers, resulting in hundreds of deaths.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...22195777581057

If true, sounds like they got the 184,000 tungsten ball treatment.

[Warning]

Russian media is reporting the deputy prime minister of chechnia has been wounded in Ukraine. Probably a bit much to ask that Wagner did it.

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Got to hope this one is true - near Kreminna, a russian officer gathered up his men into a tight pack to give them a rallying speech only for them to be hit by himars according to a number of russian milblogggers, resulting in hundreds of deaths.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...22195777581057

If true, sounds like they got the 184,000 tungsten ball treatment.

Perhaps he was shooting a 2 hour fly over Tiktok video when HIMARS ruined his social media presence. Although I have also heard the Kreminna strikes and the fact that Delimkhanov has gone missing may have been due to separate incidents.

[Belize]

You DO know what propaganda is.....right?

It's when a British person takes a good look at something

[Cynical Asshole]

russian media is reporting the deputy prime minister of chechnia has been wounded in ukraine. Probably a bit much to ask that wagner did it.

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got to hope this one is true - near kreminna, a russian officer gathered up his men into a tight pack to give them a rallying speech only for them to be hit by himars according to a number of russian milblogggers, resulting in hundreds of deaths.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...22195777581057

if true, sounds like they got the 184,000 tungsten ball treatment.

Play of the game

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LoL Putin had a big meeting with very online "military bloggers". Quoting them back at themselves as his grand stratgey.

Putin/simps say waht...
"Ze West cannot supply Ukraine forever".




The body language between Putin and Defense Minister Shoigu did not look good.

Also.

"This is the perfect opportunity to funnel public money to our buddies in the military industry to replace what we give Ukraine as well as to make more. And we like our buddies in the military industrial complex very very much, and we will do this for as long as possible."

[YUPPIE]

Russia is plotting an environmental catastrophe worse than Chernobyl

[Veggie50]

Russia is plotting an environmental catastrophe worse than Chernobyl

You need a bib? You’re salivating.

[Warning]

How far away from internal Russian purges are we now I wonder? I believe it won't be long until the classic rhetoric of "we were betrayed from within" comes out as the only justification for Russia losing the war in Ukraine, and some of the high ranking Russian officials are going to be losing their heads.

There is clear animosity between various groups of Russian forces. The Russian Ministry of Defense has tried to assume control of Wagner forces and been rebutted by its leader Prigozhin. At the same time Kadyrovs chechens are at odds with Wagner, and a Russian commander, who was recently humiliated by Wagner and forced to apologize for shooting at them is now claiming that Wagner sold out the Chechens and got them hit in the recent HIMARS strike that wounded one their leaders.

Prigozhins Wagner has meanwhile backed out of the fighting and is openly giving interviews asking to be assigned to defend Belgorod, while also talking about paying Shoigu and Gerasimov a visit if they won't come down and get their hands dirty. It seems to me that he's either going to end up dead or in control of Russia, given that he's fairly popular and surprisingly levelheaded and pragmatic, for a murderous psychopath.

[YUPPIE]

Prigozhin is so arrogantly assured Putin can't easily kill him. But by this point, he's a borderline traitor.

Anyways for some other news, Russian soldiers claim it's not a war crime if they have fun.

In vandalizing text, Russian soldiers express how much fun they're having with genocide.

[Elder Millennial]

Pootie really is at Hitler in his bunker levels of delusion and disconnect from reality in his talk. Claims that Ukraine has been totally unsuccessful in its counter-attack and suffered catastrophic losses, they could go take Kyiv if they wanted etc.

He did admit russia lost 54 tanks in the counter-offensive while claiming Ukraine lost 160 (without any evidence. )

Oddly that is more russian tanks than even Ukraine has claimed to have taken out and given the way russia lies, it may even be more than that.

General Steinerovich's counter attack will destroy the Ukrainians!

[YUPPIE]

Except Hitler in his bunker, during his last days, was powerless even in his capacity to take all those racing towards his bunker with him to the grave. And given how selfish he was, he would have done so out of spite if he could

Putin though

[Logwyn]

Except Hitler in his bunker, during his last days, was powerless even in his capacity to take all those racing towards his bunker with him to the grave. And given how selfish he was, he would have done so out of spite if he could

Putin though

You are predicting Urkaine will be pushing into Moscow sometime soon?

[Cynical Asshole]

General Steinerovich's counter attack will destroy the Ukrainians!

With what?

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You are predicting Urkaine will be pushing into Moscow sometime soon?

No, no, he has a point. There is a resistance building up in Russia. No Ukrainians of course, but Russian rebels, maybe even backed by Wagner as well because Prigozhin may see a point where he could become president by making a coup together with the rebels.

[YUPPIE]

You people have to understand that I don’t doubt we will come across a day where Putin is cornered in his bunker with all his enemies moments away from bursting in. However, unlike Ghadaffi, he won’t be dragged out for a humiliating death.