Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Elder Millennial]

that's exactly what it said. They should be looking to turn against Putin for this, not rationalize it

You dishonest lying little weasel.

"There is one point that worries them and for which, I think, they came," he said on June 17.

"Trust comes in small steps: And let's make one of the points the termination of the ICC warrant issued for Putin's arrest, and this will symbolize such trust, and then we will move on to the next points," he recalled them saying.

Where does it fucking say they only came to get Putin's arrest warrant withdrawn?

What was actually important in that article was the tacit recognition that while they'd like to start a peace process, what they really want is Ukrainian grain and Russian fertilizer.

The leaders indicated they wished to "initiate a peace process" but agreed on increasing Ukrainian grain exports and easing shipments of Russian fertilizers.

[Lenonis]

I'm extremely vigiliant, borderline obsessed, with keeping up in every news feed

Once again - that is neither normal nor healthy especially when your self admitted reaction is rage and bloodthirsty anger. I strongly recommend you talk to a professional about this and find a way to normalize your reaction to this.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

It's not but remember Zelenksy said it's important for people to keep remembering this war is happening. I'm extremely vigiliant, borderline obsessed, with keeping up in every news feed

You aren't "borderline obsessed"... you are fanatical.

[Iphie]

The African leaders had their meeting with pootie and told him the war must stop, only for him to interrupt and lecture them, saying everything was the West's fault. They and Ukraine had started the war, they were responsible for rising food prices as Ukraine was shipping grain to rich countries. And when told all children must be returned pootie said they were 'saving' them.

I mean they should be used to being lectured by older white men. /s

I'm just very annoyed by their behaviour. Even if they don't like the West, and with good reason, you'd think they'd be vigilant in not letting happen again? And yet, here we are.

[YUPPIE]

I'm just very annoyed by their behaviour. Even if they don't like the West, and with good reason, you'd think they'd be vigilant in not letting happen again? And yet, here we are.

they are ruled by fear. Fear of Putin.

If you see their expressions during this, you can see it conveyed on their faces. They don't ever want to talk back to Zelenksy despite the topic at hand.

[Corvus]

Seriously, no they don't. Most of the African nations have been voting against russia at the UN.

[YUPPIE]

I think if there is anything without a shadow of a doubt this war has proven, it's the UN's corruption and inability to do anything in regards to Russia.

[zealo]

African nations aren't necessarily ideologically pro-Russia, so much as that they just want this whole thing to end as soon as possible, and not caring about how it ends but just that it does.

The food situation for their populations is highly unstable in large part because of this war, that's their chief concern.

[YUPPIE]

African nations aren't necessarily ideologically pro-Russia

Western imperialism and crimes against Africa have historically given them many reasons to be pro-Russia.

It's why they don't just direct all the anger and blame on Putin, who started this crisis.

[Forogil]

Western imperialism and crimes against Africa have historically given them many reasons to be pro-Russia.

Some of them have a clearer vision

(Kenya was not part of the delegation.)

[Corvus]

Yeah, that is one hell of an amazing speech.

[Cynical Asshole]

Imagine being angry about the West's "imperialism" but thinking Russia and China are better. LMAO.
At least the West has SOME manner of ethics.

Russia and China can do whatever the fuck they want and they answer to no one at all.

African countries should get over their anger for the West, and realise that both Russia and China are actually DANGEROUS for them.

[Elder Millennial]

they are ruled by fear. Fear of Putin.

If you see their expressions during this, you can see it conveyed on their faces. They don't ever want to talk back to Zelenksy despite the topic at hand.

Yuppie. Answer me this.

Do you fucking understand that these countries are literally one bad harvest away from mass starvation?

Do you understand that no amount of rage or outrage will magically materialize grain and fertilizers for them?

Do you understand that Russia was the primary supplier of cheap fertilizers for many of these countries?

All they understand is inflation is sky high, that grain hasn't been arriving and that as fertilizers became more scarce they either can't get it or can't afford it.

Realistically speaking a bad food shortage could kill more people in a single African country than this whole war has so far and the world wouldn't pay 1% of the attention it is paying to this conflict.

They aren't afraid of Putin, they are terrified about the grain shipments and fertilizers come autumn, the possible energy price hikes come winter again etc.

Stop idolizing Putin and stop with the hyperbole, and for once in your booze filled psychotic life understand context.

[YUPPIE]

All of what you said is all the more reason Putin has Africa by the throat; they can't risk badmouthing or antagonizing him with further threat to the supply chain in mind

[Calfredd]

All of what you said is all the more reason Putin has Africa by the throat; they can't risk badmouthing or antagonizing him with further threat to the supply chain in mind

The Point
























Your head

[Gabriel]

Next time some bleeding heart decides to whine about mUh oPtIcS when Russian invaders are blown to hell, I want you to remember that this is what the Ukrainians are facing.

Spoiler: 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...-war-0hflzhzlv

Edited because this content is NSFW and borderline gore.

[Elder Millennial]

Next time some bleeding heart decides to whine about mUh oPtIcS when Russian invaders are blown to hell, I want you to remember that this is what the Ukrainians are facing.

The Russians speed-running the whole "worst war crimes since our last war crimes" game is utterly unsurprising.

Anyone even superficially familiar with the hazing culture of the Russian military would not be surprised by the atrocities were seeing.

The Russian military seems to be built from the ground up to traumatize people and to allow the worst psychopaths to thrive in it.

Look, we also had Abu Ghraib and all that "extraordinary rendition" crap, but the Russians just operate on a different level of brutality.

[Gabriel]

The Russians speed-running the whole "worst war crimes since our last war crimes" game is utterly unsurprising.

Anyone even superficially familiar with the hazing culture of the Russian military would not be surprised by the atrocities were seeing.

The Russian military seems to be built from the ground up to traumatize people and to allow the worst psychopaths to thrive in it.

Look, we also had Abu Ghraib and all that "extraordinary rendition" crap, but the Russians just operate on a different level of brutality.

It's not even that. They are not trying to create monsters, their military culture just is monstrous. They view sexual violence as normal thing to do because the entire Russian society basically operates on prison rules.

[Deus Mortis]

The new trench warfare footage that just came out of Ukraine guys sneaking into a Russian trench has to be some of the most wild CQC footage I have ever seen.

[Cynical Asshole]

The Russians speed-running the whole "worst war crimes since our last war crimes" game is utterly unsurprising.

Anyone even superficially familiar with the hazing culture of the Russian military would not be surprised by the atrocities were seeing.

The Russian military seems to be built from the ground up to traumatize people and to allow the worst psychopaths to thrive in it.

Look, we also had Abu Ghraib and all that "extraordinary rendition" crap, but the Russians just operate on a different level of brutality.

Not in particular. It's just that today we have way more surveillance and social media to share it on.

Humans are just as disgusting as 300,000 years ago.