Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

I haven't seen any news of family members facing anything bad if their relatives surrender.

Then again, I haven't seen any family members give a shit if their relatives die either.

There have been reports, but mainly anecdotal so...

[Elder Millennial]

"Babe, wake up, bridges in Krimea are getting blown up by Storm Shadows."

I'm about 99.6% sure that wasn't a Storm Shadow. Those missiles are expensive and carry relatively low payloads, they aren't designed to blow up bridges. They are designed to blow up generals, command posts and large groups of Russian soldiers gathered for a speech.

[Gabriel]

I'm about 99.6% sure that wasn't a Storm Shadow. Those missiles are expensive and carry relatively low payloads, they aren't designed to blow up bridges. They are designed to blow up generals, command posts and large groups of Russian soldiers gathered for a speech.

Blowing up bridges responsible for 70% of military traffic to the area north of Crimea is absolutely worth it.

[Gorsameth]

Blowing up bridges responsible for 70% of military traffic to the area north of Crimea is absolutely worth it.

He isn't saying they are not worth blowing up. He is saying it would probably a different kind of missile.

[Gabriel]

He isn't saying they are not worth blowing up. He is saying it would probably a different kind of missile.

I wouldn't be so sure. Storm Shadow seems to have the perfect warhead type for blowing up bridges.





Shaped charge blows a hole in the bridge cover, allowing the follow-through bomb to damage the bridge support beams under the bridge.

[Voidism]

I wouldn't be so sure. Storm Shadow seems to have the perfect warhead type for blowing up bridges.

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Shaped charge blows a hole in the bridge cover, allowing the follow-through bomb to damage the bridge support beams under the bridge.

I think a shape charge is too small to make a big difference, unless it's done at a very vulnerable place. I don't know how good Storm Shadow is at precision like that or if there even is such a vulnerability.

Maybe it's a bunch of Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB) doing work? I think they were getting the first batch in June.

[Gabriel]

I think a shape charge is too small to make a big difference, unless it's done at a very vulnerable place. I don't know how good Storm Shadow is at precision like that or if there even is such a vulnerability.

You misunderstood. The shaped charge blows a hole into whatever the missile is supposed to penetrate right before impact, so the main charge can penetrate deeper before it detonates.

Maybe it's a bunch of Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB) doing work? I think they were getting the first batch in June.

Could be, but their range just 150km, which would put the launcher within 10km of the frontline.

[Edge-]

Seeing reports a Wagner lad went nuts on a train and was stabbing people in Russia.

[Iphie]

Seeing reports a Wagner lad went nuts on a train and was stabbing people in Russia.

Wagner lad going nuts? Shocked, I am shocked. Well not that shocked actually.

[Deus Mortis]

Wagner lad going nuts? Shocked, I am shocked. Well not that shocked actually.

Here is another one, this time in a cafe. Who would of thought letting out cold blooded killers in prison would be a good idea. I imagine we will continue to see this happen. A lot of these people are already monsters and you add in some ptsd to that and what could go wrong.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...raine_the_pmc/

[Xyonai]

Is there value to the argument that they would be afraid for family still in Russia if they were to surrender?

I think it's a mix of that, how their own units would treat them if they were to be returned, and the idea that they might assume Ukranians treat their POWs as badly as Russians do and they'd rather die than get - hypothetically - tortured and castrated.

[Gabriel]

https://twitter.com/clashreport/stat...689797/video/1
Yeah it was a Storm Shadow.

[Poopymonster]

https://twitter.com/clashreport/stat...689797/video/1
Yeah it was a Storm Shadow.

This is the man responsible.


It was Storm Shadow.
COBRA!

[YUPPIE]

Seeing reports a Wagner lad went nuts on a train and was stabbing people in Russia.

Giving a citation, as the story is pretty cool with context

A Russian murderer freed by Vladimir Putin to fight for the Wagner Group of mercenaries has gone on a crazed rampage on the way home from Ukraine, it has been claimed.

Horrifying footage shared on social media shows the blood-splattered beds, tables, floors, doors, and walls on board a train seemingly traveling from Ukraine to Russia.

Igor Sushko, a researcher from the Winds of Modification Research Group, shared the information on Twitter.

He claimed the "Russian murderer" - traveling home from Ukraine after being pardoned by Putin to fight for Wagner - slashed one person's throat and stabbed another in the head.

Sushko added Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin - a close confidant of the Russian president - had said 32,000 pardoned criminals "are now loose all over Russia".

[Elder Millennial]

Giving a citation, as the story is pretty cool with context

Cool? What's your major mental malfunction?

You need professional help, ASAP.

[YUPPIE]

Cool? What's your major mental malfunction?

You need professional help, ASAP.

the bolded part, not the violence. 32,000 unreformed criminals of the worst kind running loose upon Russia is quite a story.

[DarkTZeratul]

the bolded part, not the violence. 32,000 unreformed criminals of the worst kind running loose upon Russia is quite a story.

And yet you think that's "pretty cool"?

I'm going to echo Elder Millennial. Get help. Really. Honestly. Not even joking. I genuinely think you would benefit from some sort of therapy.

[Voidism]

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https://twitter.com/clashreport/stat...689797/video/1
Yeah it was a Storm Shadow.

I yield. That's pretty much perfect evidence lol

[Corvus]

Apparently the debris left over from the missile strike had French writing on it. The Storm Shadow was a joint UK-France development. Interestingly, the French were meant to have sent any of their variants yet. Looks like they may have done so unannounced.

[YUPPIE]

Another assassination?

A nuclear physicist who helped create Russia’s first hydrogen bomb was found dead in a Moscow apartment this week, having reportedly committed suicide.

Grigory Klinishov, 92, left behind a suicide note in which he said sorry to his family and confessed that he’d been unable to cope with his health issues and loss of his wife, Russian media reported, citing unnamed sources in law enforcement.

It was not immediately clear if the scientist made any other statements in the alleged note. News of his death broke amid heightened concerns of a nuclear catastrophe in Ukraine, where Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday accused Moscow of planning to sabotage Europe’s largest atomic power station and unleash radiation.

Klinishov was reportedly found hanged to death by his 67-year-old daughter in an apartment the two shared. According to Kommersant, investigators have launched a probe into his death despite already deeming it a likely suicide.