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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    this is just an attempt to mislead the Ukrainians. Prig would never betray Putin and vice versa.
    I'm sure a prophetic savant like you would know more than independent media insiders within the Kremlin, who all are aghast at what has happened.

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    Very interesting news, wonder if it will pay out or is just some noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladier View Post
    I'm sure a prophetic savant like you would know more than independent media insiders within the Kremlin, who all are aghast at what has happened.
    yes, this is a war and the opposition (Russia) is evil and cutthroat. When they say stuff like this on social media, the intent is to get their enemy to compromise their posts in a sense of false security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    this is just an attempt to mislead the Ukrainians. Prig would never betray Putin and vice versa.
    Going pretty far for a misleading attempt....

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ust-be-stopped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Going pretty far for a misleading attempt....

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ust-be-stopped
    i mean, believability is obviously a huge factor in misdirection. You have to put on a show.

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    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...38025731469312

    This is indeed quite the show. I'm sure when the shooting starts and they're hauling off corpses you'll be telling us that they're really into their method acting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Is it Ron Paul rave time? Is it happening?
    I sure hope so!

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    "The remnants of Wagner's units on the outskirts of Bakhmut opened fire on the regular troops of the Russian Federation." - Bakhmut Demon (our UA soldier)
    https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...32860886331392

    The Ukrainians are saying Wagner has been shooting at the Russian soldiers.

    Are the Ukrainians spewing Russian Propganda? @YUPPIE

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    Will this be a 3 day special operation to denazify Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Will this be a 3 day special operation to denazify Russia?
    Given their casualties, I'd say they are deep into the process of the denazification of Russia
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    I actually think Yuppie might be right here… *shudders*

    I feel dirty now…

    To elaborate, Prigo’s speech did not betray Putin. He’s just positioning the MoD as the scapegoats with Putin as the victim.

    I foresee Russia capitulating and a summary execution for all mayor MoD players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    I actually think Yuppie might be right here… *shudders*

    I feel dirty now…

    To elaborate, Prigo’s speech did not betray Putin. He’s just positioning the MoD as the scapegoats with Putin as the victim.

    I foresee Russia capitulating and a summary execution for all mayor MoD players.
    We could also see Russian MoD do a coup if they feel Putin is using Prig to paint them as the target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    I actually think Yuppie might be right here… *shudders*

    I feel dirty now…

    To elaborate, Prigo’s speech did not betray Putin. He’s just positioning the MoD as the scapegoats with Putin as the victim.

    I foresee Russia capitulating and a summary execution for all mayor MoD players.
    Given what seems to be happening now I think we're beyond that distinction Prig's branded a traitor and his HQ is getting surrounded in addition there are reports of skirmishes between Wagner and the MoD forces, i this is an attempt at misleading then they're making on hell of a show of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    I actually think Yuppie might be right here… *shudders*

    I feel dirty now…

    To elaborate, Prigo’s speech did not betray Putin. He’s just positioning the MoD as the scapegoats with Putin as the victim.

    I foresee Russia capitulating and a summary execution for all mayor MoD players.
    Reportedly, Prig's not been in Putin's favour for quite some time now, while Shoigu was. And given that Putin gets his news solely from his own propaganda machine, his MoD and the FSB (which has branded the event as military mutiny), I don't think Prig is that important to Putin to replace his entire state apparatus.

    Also, Prig declared that he's going to "figure out" what is happening in the country. He also said that after said "figuring out" Wagner will return to the front, but that kind of feels like a bold-faced lie given what he's doing.

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    "Trying to foul Ukraine" doesn't work like that.

    Military command doesn't base their operations on what tiktok video's show. They have actual intelligence operations, and in this case the US and EU intelligence agencies who knew the orders being send to commanders in the field before the actual commanders did.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Will this be a 3 day special operation to denazify Russia?
    Nazis will be denazified either way if the Russian MoD and Wagner dukes it out, no shortage of those around there.

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    Anyone think Prig will completely flip and try to ally with Ukraine? Would Zelensky accept him if he did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Anyone think Prig will completely flip and try to ally with Ukraine? Would Zelensky accept him if he did?
    Churchill's (was it him?) musings on allying with the Devil come to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Anyone think Prig will completely flip and try to ally with Ukraine? Would Zelensky accept him if he did?
    Who knows, eat popcorn and let's see what happens.

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