Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Jastall]

The Prig is now saying that the air force was ordered to bomb his column but the pilots refused as they were moving alongside civilian traffic and the pilots didn't want to strike civilians.

That one doesn't sound as credible as indiscriminate bombing of civilians is what russia's air force does best.

Their own civilians is likely another matter if Wagner had already crossed into Russia or were deep in their held territory in Ukraine.

Still, IF true and Wagner is gunning for Moscow virtually unopposed... that is beyond spicy. I'll be watching this space.

[Gaidax]

Id lean more on "let them fight the russians over there and then stay in russia knowing if they ever leave, the Hague will be waiting"

Bruh, this is so cute, who cares about Hague. It's a toothless threat that is simply not on the books in any reality.

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As for what is going on, the best outcome would be for this shit lasting for a while with Prigozhin ultimately losing but taking a lot of effort and pain from the authorities to get there.

Like something akin to this lasting few weeks and ultimately resulting in Wagner destroyed and taking a good chunk of regular army with it.

That would be the best outcome, because it will help counteroffensive immensely, while not having to contend with Prigozhin and his cutthroats as next leaders of Russia.

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That said, I think this thing will play out in a matter of days at most with either Prigozhin or Shoigu head on a platter. It will be down to a good old assassination or two - either they take out Prigozhin or army turns and takes MoD heads into custody.

[Elenos]

A few months ago someone asked me why Putin didn't eliminate Prigozhin, since he was stirring shit up even then. I told them that Wagner numbers around 50.000 well trained troops, not conscripts, and it represents an enormous part of Russia's armed forces potential. To eliminate Prigozhin would be suicide for the MoD given everything in Ukraine.

But apparently the Russian MoD tried to do so.

[Elegiac]

It's a Pride Month miracle, y'all!

Live footage from inside the Kremlin:

[AntiFascistVoter]

Russia on the verge of Civil War...
@Kokolums have you packed your bags yet? You've been thirsting for a civil war for ages.

Also every accelerationist dipshit from the 2016 and 2020 threads. You wanted huge revolution to rock the world... pack your fucking bags for Moscow right now.

I would "at" them, but most seems to have deleted or nuked their accounts .... awww

It's a Pride Month miracle, y'all!

Indeed!

[Corvus]

Reportedly video from Rostov.

https://twitter.com/clashreport/stat...694157313?s=20

[Edge-]

Man, Russia starting a civil war on a Friday so the world has the weekend to watch (sorry folks working this weekend, we appreciate your sacrifice) is really considerate of them.

I imagine a lot of Russia stans are pretty quiet right about now. I just hope Wagner and the FSB etc. mostly keep the killing to each other and whatnot. But hey, it's Russia, so high likelihood of intentional civilian casualties.

[Vankrys]

Gaz:
Good news first, the world's in great shape. We've got a civil war in Russia, government loyalists against ultranationalists rebels, and 15,000 nukes at stake.

Captain Price:
Just another day at the office.

[Kronik85]

Interesting development but I doubt this will make a difference for the Counter Offensive. For starters this isn't a civil war, give up on that narrative unless you are memeing. Wagner is mostly withdrawn from Ukraine and the major road block for Ukraine atm is that Russian defensive lines have been built to a good standard and Ukraine has no answer to Russian air power. Unless Wagner manages to cripple the Russian Air Force in it's death throes then Russia losing more of it's low quality infantry doesn't make any difference to the conflict.

I know people have found it hard to imagine that Prigozhin has been able to publicly slam the Russian state over and over without sanction but that's been his role in Russian propaganda, so long as he kept deflecting blame from Putin onto the Russian Military leadership then that was fine. Even his latest messaging still avoids laying any blame at Putin's feet. I guess what's gone wrong is that Putin has finally decided it's more advantageous to go all in on Shoigu than keeping up the circus of these public disputes.

It's a shame that something as juicy as this won't really make much difference but at least we can all wish Prig the best in taking out as much Russian hardware as possible during his self immolation.

[Kallisto]

According to Prig (so get a grain of salt) Wagner just shot down a Russian attack helicopter that was firing on civilians near Rostov.

[Poopymonster]

Id lean more on "let them fight the russians over there and then stay in russia knowing if they ever leave, the Hague will be waiting"

More dead Russians, less Ukraine effort.
Zelensky is narrating it like it's a documentary, but using his Paddington voice.

[P for Pancetta]

Wagner tanks are currently rolling into Rostov, and the Russian Army checkpoints are just letting them roll by.
https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV..._roadblock_of/
Also doing something inside the city:
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...Cwyaes0rUuAAAA

[Corvus]

Moving on Rostov makes a lot of sense. It is very close to Ukraine, on the Sea of Azov, so easy to get to. It is also where the senior brass, including Shoigu, are running the war, and they are the ones the Prig is after.

It is also a very major logistics and supply hub, which the Prig would need to continue to fight. It also has the added bonus of seriously interrupting the supply to russian troops in Ukraine.

[Edge-]

Also doing something inside the city:
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...Cwyaes0rUuAAAA

Tanks in the streets and soldiers with weapons moving about and the chucklefucks are just standing around on the sidewalks on their phones recording and shit.

These are not bright fellas.

[Corvus]

Damn, now there are reports that not only are Wagner in Rostov but have surrounded the southern military district HQ. the video of tanks in Rostov show them pointing their guns at the building, which would be a strange way to defend it.

Wonder if the Prig actually will go through with his threat to hang generals.

[Benggaul]

Tanks in the streets and soldiers with weapons moving about and the chucklefucks are just standing around on the sidewalks on their phones recording and shit.

These are not bright fellas.

To be fair--not that they deserve it--you would 100% see that in the US and UK as well. Hell, probably just about any 1st world country that hasn't seen war in their borders in the past couple decades. It's a spectacle to them; like a parade. Until the shooting starts.

[Corvus]

Wagner now say they have captured SMD HQ.

[Kallisto]

Wagner now say they have captured SMD HQ.

Would this be it?

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...27667365216260

edit never mind already posted

[Corvus]

That's part of it, yeah.

With how fast this has moved, it was not some spur of the moment thing. This was preplanned.

[P for Pancetta]

Wagner now say they have captured SMD HQ.

They claim to have captured the entire city and have surrounded various important buildings including the SMDHQ, FSB Office, Police etc.

Fights have been reported near Voronezh, the Army has send Jets and Helicopters, Wagner claims to have shot two of the latter.