Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Elegiac]

The US has the best military on the world. Still failed to defeat the Taliban. You can be the best and still fail

Putin is not "the best", however, for a variety of reasons including but not limited to his massive overestimation of his military's own capabilities and his massive underestimation of Ukraine's resolve to resist.

[Kreuger]

Well, hear me out.

How about accepting the money and then after Putin has a window-accident handing over him?

You sold me on that scenario

[Poopymonster]

The US has the best military on the world. Still failed to defeat the Taliban. You can be the best and still fail

It took 20 years, 4 presidents, countless billions of dollars for the US to replace the Taliban with...The Taliban.

[Kreuger]

It took 20 years, 4 presidents, countless billions of dollars for the US to replace the Taliban with...The Taliban.

Pretty much what happens when you fight a war withput a real plan, not much gets achieved

[Kathranis]

countless billions of dollars

Oh, they kept count. $2.3 trillion.

[diller]

Which is clearly demonstrated in the way we're now on day 485 of the Special 3-Day Operation in Ukraine. /s

Maybe stop uncritically deep-throating Russian propaganda for once in your natural life, yeah?

It's pretty obvious that Yuppie has a crush on Putin, he almost seems sad that he might be done for.

[MCMLXXXII]

Putin getting beaten by his criminal chef, what a glorious day. All those cannibals and rapists on their way to Moscow in stead of Kyiv, you'd almost feel sorry for them. Almost.

[Mhyroth]

Wagnerites are getting closer and closer to Moscow, thing is, you cannot hold a 11m city with 20k soldiers, while fighting the government, while holding Rostov.

The defense of the city will be done by the police and other lightly armed forces. Russian institutional incompetence will make them take days to prepare a force to deal with Wagner. So the defense of Moscow can delay the advancement of the Mercs for a few days. Maybe.

I don't see the mercs taking Moscow or deposing Putin, at most the can negotiate the early retirement of Shoigu and the other clowns on the ministry of defense. But who knows, the leader of Wagner is a well known criminal, and criminals are unpredictable

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The US has the best military on the world. Still failed to defeat the Taliban. You can be the best and still fail

I do wonder, what if police and all the other light armed forces just let Wagner pass and grab Moscow? Since they're sick and tired of this bs and want it all to be over?

[MCMLXXXII]

I just want 2 things: unban Shalcker for a day or two, and an OJ Simpson style helicopter chase of the Wagner convoy.

[Gorsameth]

The notion that police and riot suppressors are going to willingly stand in the way of a battle hardened army is hilarious. You have watched to many movies.

[MCMLXXXII]

The notion that police and riot suppressors are going to willingly stand in the way of a battle hardened army is hilarious. You have watched to many movies.

Yeah, still wondering who is going to stand in the way of the Prick. Which military? Police?

[Tuor]

What does this wagner guys want? To replace a dictator with their own?

[Saradain]

I just want 2 things: unban Shalcker for a day or two, and an OJ Simpson style helicopter chase of the Wagner convoy.

I too want the said individual to make a single post of his thoughts.

Will he admit he was wrong all along and sorry for his actions?

Or will he spin the wildest theory of Russia's greatest plan ever, turning all this shitshow into a boon for the Nazi Empire?

Wildcard option: He dies valiantly by a sledgehammer in defense of his God-Tsar Putin.

[Gabriel]

I just want 2 things: unban Shalcker for a day or two, and an OJ Simpson style helicopter chase of the Wagner convoy.

Yes please. I want to sample the industrial grade cope.

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What does this wagner guys want? To replace a dictator with their own?

Pretty much.

[enigma77]

What does this wagner guys want? To replace a dictator with their own?

He wants to apply for Putin's job.

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The notion that police and riot suppressors are going to willingly stand in the way of a battle hardened army is hilarious. You have watched to many movies.

I wanna see them try.

[Calfredd]

It's pretty obvious that Yuppie has a crush on Putin, he almost seems sad that he might be done for.

Well he even admitted that he wished that the U.S. had someone like Putin as president.

[MCMLXXXII]

Yes please. I want to sample the industrial grade cope.

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Pretty much.

On Twitter it seems he's leaning towards the Prick.

[D Luniz]

He'll get shipped off to Hague if he dares to exist Russia. If I was Putin, I'd start looking for a handgun.

but I have it under good authority that the proper way to view the Hague is

Bruh, this is so cute, who cares about Hague. It's a toothless threat that is simply not on the books in any reality.

[Gaidax]

but I have it under good authority that the proper way to view the Hague is

It is the reality.

Not sure what's so questionable about this. The whole schtick works only against some deposed half dead zombies post-factum shipped off by their own countries that switched from one asshole leadership to another.

If you think that Hague is what Putin or anyone else in Russia is afraid off, you're off base. For leadership in Russia it's either you're at the helm or you're in the ground. Hague? Why that would be almost like a vacation for them if shit hits the fan.

[D Luniz]

Wagnerites are getting closer and closer to Moscow, thing is, you cannot hold a 11m city with 20k soldiers, while fighting the government, while holding Rostov.

The defense of the city will be done by the police and other lightly armed forces. Russian institutional incompetence will make them take days to prepare a force to deal with Wagner. So the defense of Moscow can delay the advancement of the Mercs for a few days. Maybe.

I don't see the mercs taking Moscow or deposing Putin, at most the can negotiate the early retirement of Shoigu and the other clowns on the ministry of defense. But who knows, the leader of Wagner is a well known criminal, and criminals are unpredictable

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The US has the best military on the world. Still failed to defeat the Taliban. You can be the best and still fail

and every bit of that assumes that its not more of the "Oh, I see you're with Wagner, well go on by, Im gonna just take the day off" from the local police and such in moscow

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It is the reality.

Not sure what's so questionable about this. The whole schtick works only against some deposed half dead zombies post-factum shipped off by their own countries that switched from one asshole leadership to another.

If you think that Hague is what Putin or anyone else in Russia is afraid off, you're off base.

and what do you think the loser of this will be? Is Prig loses, he's " some deposed half dead zombies post-factum shipped off by their own countries", if this goes as far as Putin being forced out, then he's the " some deposed half dead zombies post-factum shipped off by their own countries that switched from one asshole leadership to another"

sure, putting a bullet in the back of the head is quick, but remember, the winner wants the status quo of Russia being a oligarchic kleptostate back, and for that, they need enough goodwill to get the sanctions lifted.

Tossing some asshole to the Hague ain't a bad start.

So what was the point of you snide rebuttal if we both seem to agree the loser could get tossed as a peace offering.

Keeping ukraine is a moot point. Command and Control is in disaray, the troops on the front line are weighing between "will there be a government to pay me" and "will we get more supplies" neither is conducive to "Im gonna stay and fight"

add that the last Soviet collapse was just 32 years ago, a lot of them don't view the gamble of "it will be back to normal in a few days" as the likely outcome, hence why so many guards are just stepping aside and saying "Let them fight"