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    Quote Originally Posted by Biglog View Post
    The Kremlin is saying Putin will make a speech tonight to make several important announcements. I suppose it go could one of 2 ways; either spin that the whole coup/mutiny left them stronger than ever to try to downplay backlash over his weak response to it, or (longshot, but it's Russia) a dramatic reversal and doubling-down against Wagner despite the apparent truce to show strength.

    A lot of times with these scheduled Putin speeches he just never shows up, and then the Kremlin puts out a statement afterwards saying that he was never going to make a speech. Which is always funny.
    I wonder when that'll be, it's nearly 10:00 PM there now. But the second scenario isn't too far fetched considering that apparently the charges haven't been dropped yet. (and I *just* saw a youtube vid making the claim that putie was breaking the deal, but you know, youtube.)+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    We don't get to mock the Russians too hard as long as Donald Trump, Lauren Boebert, MGT, Gaetz, Josh Hawley et all are still roaming free.
    I only know who Trump is and what he has done. Afaik, he's being taken care of properly.
    I'm not American.

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    INB4 "I resign". Maybe he finally saw how weak he is (or rather, it got fully revealed to the world), and that it is his last moment to bail safely.
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2023-06-26 at 07:04 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Dropping bombs in an attempt to kill Prig would be a hard escalation. They maybe would do it if talks would fail.
    Uhu, got it.

    Shooting down the russian military helicopters, killing tens of pilots is ok and responding to that would have been to escalatory. God putin is even more pathetic the more I think of it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidism View Post
    I only know who Trump is and what he has done. Afaik, he's being taken care of properly.
    I'm not American.
    MGT is the one who kept going on about Jewish Space lazers among so many other conspiracy theories. Likely rigged her election by having her followers send so many death threats to her opponent that he had to drop out of the race for representative.
    Gaetz basically has openly confessed to basically being a paedophile and gets around it through loopholes.

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    oh good someone finally woke him up

    Putin is going to make a “number of important statements” this evening, per the Kremlin.

    Time to /warp in that popcorn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShakesForPRide View Post
    oh good someone finally woke him up

    Putin is going to make a “number of important statements” this evening, per the Kremlin.

    Time to /warp in that popcorn.
    More baby crying probably. "Bad west r evul, ukrein not country! The gui yestordei wats his naem... uh... did bad. I poo poo pants"

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    Lukashenko is also supposed to speak. Russian social media smell big news coming.
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2023-06-26 at 07:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Lukashenko is also supposed to speak. Russian social media smell big news coming.
    He and Putin are getting married, calling it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    He and Putin are getting married, calling it now.
    And after recent events, we all know who will be the bitch in this relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    He and Putin are getting married, calling it now.
    The guy who made the "I am gay" video that got memes banned in Russia was just trying to tell us the truth all along.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The guy who made the "I am gay" video that got memes banned in Russia was just trying to tell us the truth all along.
    I debated embedding the video in my post but decided against it as I wasn't entirely sure it was real and not a fever dream.



    But I forgot that this song bops. Why do all the parody songs about awful people have to bop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I debated embedding the video in my post but decided against it as I wasn't entirely sure it was real and not a fever dream.



    But I forgot that this song bops. Why do all the parody songs about awful people have to bop.
    Aged like a fine wine. :chefskiss:
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    So was it anything other than "Wagner are great guys, they made a whoopsie, I will keep my promise to those going to Belarus, Russia strong, good night."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    So was it anything other than "Wagner are great guys, they made a whoopsie, I will keep my promise to those going to Belarus, Russia strong, good night."?
    Apparently it was: "Those who participated and who organized it are traitors to the country", and "Wagner can stay here and sign up with the MoD or fuck of to Belarus..."

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    So, more posturing when the threat is gone. Just to reassure he is still in charge and control.

    k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    So, more posturing when the threat is gone. Just to reassure he is still in charge and control.

    k

    Really boring.

    So many of his personal red lines got crossed. And no one was nuked over it. /s

    So much for all of that skeery text.
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    Prigozhin's plane flew from Rostov to St Petersburg after the negotiations. We don't know if it was to have a personal meeting with Putin or just to pick up his family and valuables. It does show to me that Prigozhin wasn't worried about getting assassinated or harmed, and he wasn't in a hurry to leave the country. He was only seen in Minsk for the first time two days later.

    Despite all the grandstanding there are no actual repercussions for the Wagner forces. Putin says that the perpetrators will be brought to justice (hinting at prigozhin) but he's not in Russia. and the Wagner forces in Russia get a choice to go join Prigozhin or join the regular army. Any professional Wagner soldier (veterans, ex-special forces) with two braincells is going to go to Belarus, because the Russian army isn't going to pay them their exorbitant salaries. Which indicates too me the army deal is mainly directed toward the prison conscripts Wagner started recruiting during the war. Whom are of little value for Prigozhin's African enterprises.

    Putin clearly didn't defeat Wagner, which can bite him in the ass later on because Wagner has a large foothold in Africa and with Prigozhin at the helm. Politically speaking it might make more sense for certain African leaders to approach Lukashenko or Prigozhin now instead of Putin when they need something.

    That combined with the amount of people that showed support or indifference toward the possible end of his reign should have Putin very worried. The Russian people are not going to defend him, they'll switch loyalty at the drop of a hat.
    Last edited by P for Pancetta; 2023-06-26 at 09:50 PM.

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    Wagner troops and their families are going to move to Belarus according to some reports. Meanwhile pootie does a nothingburger of a speech, making himself look even weaker.

    Luka really is the winner out of this, picking up an experienced private army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Luka really is the winner out of this, picking up an experienced private army.
    But can he afford them?

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